Ever wanted to try the MING Shi 3000S? I am going to PIF one that I bought a year ago and finally got around to trying today. It was actually ok... not a Fatboy but worth 10 to 15 bucks (I am mostly straight razor shaving now). The PIF is listed on Buy-Sale-Trade under "A Real Bunch of Worthless Junk". You will have to read down the comments a bit to get to the PIF.