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Match for Floris No. 89

I have sampled Floris No. 89 EdT - and I love it!

What would be good pairings in the same vein? Either soap, cream or aftershave?
 
let us know how it performs ... was it reformulated?
my puck from 5 years ago lathered thin and pitiful.
When I get it in I'll post the ingredients and a report on how it performs.
I've had that puck and it became one of my all time favorites.
The trick is that it must be relegated for the shower :adoration:

Of the previous formulation, I wrote to Floris CS once I learned of the reformulation and that it performed as expected - they sent me a replacement puck. I don't have a spare to reference within my immediate stash, but this what you should expect to find something akin to:

I believe it's only Apsley that has been reformulated (happened a couple of years ago). T&H Apsley, Floris and Arran all use the following base ingredients:

Potassium Palmate, Potassium Palm Kernelate, Potassium Stearate, Sodium Palmate, Glycerin, Aqua (Water), Sodium Palm Kernelate, Sodium Stearate, Palm Kernel Acid, Parfum (Fragrance), Sodium Chloride, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea) Butter, Pentasodium Pentetate, Tetrasodium Etidronate, Panthenol, Limonene, Hydroxycitronellal, Citronellol, Hexyl Cinnamal, Linalool.

Found one in my "Next Available" Stash from '22:
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Reformulated around 2018 with a base that is indeed shared with T&H Apsley.

Note that many of the British triple-milled have reformulated again around 2024 in line with the EU's outright ban on Pentesodium Pentetate - that's T&H & TOBS from the London Cartel but also Edwin Jagger, Scottish Fine Soaps and Captain Fawcett that I've spotted so far ... so it's reasonable to assume that Floris will also unveil a new formulation in due course as stocks run through.

It is worth saying that the change is for the better even with their existing formulations being perfectly good. Yes, there was a Dark Age for the British triple-middle from around 2011/2013 through to 2016/2018 depending upon the bloodline - Standard Company or Broad Oak.

So, yes, so long as you're okay with Shea Butter as an ingredient (some folks balk at this) then the Floris soap will be a perfect addition to your repertoire and naturally a perfect partner for the EDT ... and aftershave if you get that.
 
Reformulated around 2018 with a base that is indeed shared with T&H Apsley.

Note that many of the British triple-milled have reformulated again around 2024 in line with the EU's outright ban on Pentesodium Pentetate - that's T&H & TOBS from the London Cartel but also Edwin Jagger, Scottish Fine Soaps and Captain Fawcett that I've spotted so far ... so it's reasonable to assume that Floris will also unveil a new formulation in due course as stocks run through.

It is worth saying that the change is for the better even with their existing formulations being perfectly good. Yes, there was a Dark Age for the British triple-middle from around 2011/2013 through to 2016/2018 depending upon the bloodline - Standard Company or Broad Oak.

So, yes, so long as you're okay with Shea Butter as an ingredient (some folks balk at this) then the Floris soap will be a perfect addition to your repertoire and naturally a perfect partner for the EDT ... and aftershave if you get that.
Thank you fo the insights.
I think I need to get the No. 89 soap puck in the future.

I really enjoy the scent - and fortunately, my significant other does so as well.
 
I agree that the scent is fantastic and one of my favorites.

However, these soaps are in the bottom of any list in performance. They perform so poorly that I washed my dog with the last puck.

Often, we say the YMMV, but these soaps were reformulated by corporate people who do not use them or test them.

I wish that I was wrong. Someone please prove me wrong.
 
but these soaps were reformulated by corporate people who do not use them or test them
Those working on the formulations clearly are not wet shavers and do not know how a good soap should act. No way on earth they test them side by side and then say “oh yeah, ours is better”, no way.
 
I agree that the scent is fantastic and one of my favorites.

However, these soaps are in the bottom of any list in performance. They perform so poorly that I washed my dog with the last puck.

Often, we say the YMMV, but these soaps were reformulated by corporate people who do not use them or test them.

I wish that I was wrong. Someone please prove me wrong.
You are correct of the previous formulation.

I can attest the current Potassium Forward Floris and TH Apsley are superb.

To be fair, I’ve had the non-reformulated TH Sandalwood for some time - it’s always worked well for me.
 
You are correct of the previous formulation.

I can attest the current Potassium Forward Floris and TH Apsley are superb.

To be fair, I’ve had the non-reformulated TH Sandalwood for some time - it’s always worked well for me.

I do love the English brands, but simply want them to perform. In my defense, I used the tallow version of Floris exclusively for five years when I first started using a brush in 1995. I am not expecting that glorious tallow protection, but ... the current versions leave too much irritation to go to the office these days.
 
I do love the English brands, but simply want them to perform. In my defense, I used the tallow version of Floris exclusively for five years when I first started using a brush in 1995. I am not expecting that glorious tallow protection, but ... the current versions leave too much irritation to go to the office these days.
When you say “Protection” are you referring to density of the lather ?

Slickness is my only mode of protection with a Straight…

I get you though, each of us have our own tolerances for our skin. That it is Not a One Size fit all makes it that much more enjoyable - Cheers
 
When you say “Protection” are you referring to density of the lather ?

Slickness is my only mode of protection with a Straight…

I get you though, each of us have our own tolerances for our skin. That it is Not a One Size fit all makes it that much more enjoyable - Cheers

For me, "protection" of any soap is protection from the blade. When I slap on the alcohol splash does it burn like hell or leave me with red spots? Tabac or Grooming Dept soaps for example leave me with no redness and a slight bracing with aftershave; I consider those two soaps to have a lot of protection. Protection means cutting hair and not skin.

Some soaps are slicker and that helps ,like MdC perhaps.

My personal test has been to settle on a razor I love AS-D2 with feather blades. Three passes and Speick splash reveals the quality of the soap.

Enjoy what works for you.
 

Steve56

Ask me about shaving naked!
The No 89 cream and the CURRENT No 89 hard soap are good pairings of course. Martin de Candre fougere is also quite a nice pairing with No 89 as are some of the other fougeres.
 
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