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Martin De Candre Scent strength!?!?

I picked up two samples of Martin De Cadre soaps to try with my last order from Maggards. The two scents I selected were Fougere and Rose. In the past week I did three shaves, first two with Fougere and this morning I used the Rose. Samples in general can be trickier to work up a lather but I was successful, pressing a small scoop flat in my bowl, letting it bloom, and working up the lather with my boar brush. Lather was great, shave was excellent, the frequently noted post-face drying seemed real but since I am a balm man (Proraso Blue, and Stirling) the post drying was not an concern.

My only concern is the scent, or almost lack of a scent. The Fougere “in the sample cup“ was very light, while the Rose was almost non-existent. I had hoped that the scent would come to life as I worked up my lather, but No, nothing. For me, the wet shaving thing is not just about a good shave, (and it certainly is not about saving money), but the overall experience - working up a lather, massaging my face with the brush, and enjoying the wonderful scents of various soaps. I like slick soaps with a strong, pleasant scent and have spent a while buying mostly samples 40-50 to narrow down favorite soaps and the scents I prefer within their line. The last soap on my list of soap makers to try was MDC.

Bottom line, for me, soap is great, perhaps the best non-tallow soap I have tried (I lean strongly towards tallow), but where‘s the scent? Again, Fougere scent was nice but weak, but Rose was almost non-existant. I doubt I would know it was Rose scent if there was no label. If I compared it to my sample of let’s say, Maggards Lilac, the lather, slickness, shave is similar but the scent itself is potent. I wanted to think that perhaps being a sample it was taken from a jar that had aired out so the scent dissipated but my guess is they open soaps one jar at a time and fill the sample cups and close, so scent dissipation from long opened jars is unlikely. Plus, since MDC is a soap that boasts that a tub last years, and it has little to no moisture, that scent life should be long with properly care letting soap dry and closing lid)

Is my scent experience typical? What say you?
 
I only have the fougere and yeah it's not the strongest scent, but still strong enough for me to enjoy during the shave. I don't think MDC is known for potent scent profiles. In agreement about scent being part of the overall experience but at least my tub isn't lacking in that regard.
 
I often find samples lacking scent. I have all five MdC scents, and love them all. As recommended by MdC, my jars are stored with the lids off. My oldest tub (Fougere) is nearly 5 years old, scent strength has not diminished.

Interesting comment. Let me share some of my scent strength experience, from samples, to see if others experienced similar….

Chiseled Face: have about six sample and overall range from medium to fairly potent - which I like.

Maggards: tried all scents except Mango Sage. All medium to strong scents except Orange Menthol - which was not only weak, but despite label, No menthol sensation at all

TOBS: Sandlewood - nice with good fragrance strength. Cedar, and Oud - nice scents but strength almost nill. Lime Zest - wonderful with the most strength

Noble Otter: BarrBarr - weak but stronger than MDC. Orbit - haven’t tried my sample yet but scent from sample jar seems both very nice and noticeably stronger than BarrBarr

Ariana and Evans: Strong: Peach and Cognac, Vanille de Tabac, Asian Plum. Very Weak: L’Orange Verte. Light/Medium: Sparticus

Stirling: tried about 10-12 samples and lots of strength variation Haverford being potent, Varen Medium, Executive Man - weak.

MDC: from reviews I gathered that Argumes (haven’t tried) the weakest scent, and Rose the strongest (strongest is relative, with no reviews stating it is “strong”). So I picked Rose and Fougere to try
 
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Bear in mind that Maggards will be sampling from the same 200g jar, that will be repeatedly opened and scooped from over a long period of time. I wouldn't expect much scent to arrive in the post...

Fougère is a delicate scent, but still strong enough to enjoy throughout the shave, and strong enough to be immediately discernible when opening the jar.
 
Bear in mind that Maggards will be sampling from the same 200g jar, that will be repeatedly opened and scooped from over a long period of time. I wouldn't expect much scent to arrive in the post...

Fougère is a delicate scent, but still strong enough to enjoy throughout the shave, and strong enough to be immediately discernible when opening the jar.
Yep, spot on.

I've used MdC regularly for years & enjoy it a great deal! It is one of my two top soap brands. I also found it to be drying to my face early on. Then I tried adding more water as I work up the lather & it isn't drying to me anymore. I want the lather to be thin & slightly runny on my face, not a whipped cream lather. Once I began adding more water, it has been outstanding in all regards.
 
MDC: from reviews I gathered that Argumes (haven’t tried) the weakest scent, and Rose the strongest (strongest is relative, with no reviews stating it is “strong”). So I picked Rose and Fougere to try
I have jars of both Rose and Agrumes and I use them frequently. I actually think Agrumes is stronger during the shave, but Rose lingers more.

Neither is what I'd call a scent bomb but I don't find them weak, either.

Samples can be misleading. I had samples of Rose and Original and Original was pretty light in comparison.
 
Bear in mind that Maggards will be sampling from the same 200g jar, that will be repeatedly opened and scooped from over a long period of time. I wouldn't expect much scent to arrive in the post...

How sure are you that this is how they do it? I would guess, and it is just a guess, that to create samples they might just open a jar of X, then use the entire contents to fill perhaps perhaps 20 or so sample containers. But maybe that only happens with flavors, I mean scents, that are in high or constant demand.
 
Not at all. :) Based on browsing reddit, most of the samples I see there are of US artisans, so I imagine MdC is more of a "prepare on demand"—type product.
I do not think Maggard samples are “prepare on demand”. Their sample page has sections for each brand with dropdown menus of each brands offerings. Those that are out of stock are greyed out, so they are not an option. You can’t order and expect it to be fulfilled during the order process. Also, although they do not offer samples of all brands, or samples of all products within the brand, they do include some non-US companies like Proraso, TOBS, GeoTrumper and others. Their samples also include some preshaves, Aftershaves, and EDT’s. Most of my purchases have been from their sample page Shaving Soap, Shaving Cream and Aftershave Samples - https://maggardrazors.com/collections/samples
 
I have jars of both Rose and Agrumes and I use them frequently. I actually think Agrumes is stronger during the shave, but Rose lingers more.

Neither is what I'd call a scent bomb but I don't find them weak, either.


Samples can be misleading. I had samples of Rose and Original and Original was pretty light in comparison.

I would never have known, at least from my sample, that Rose is a rose scent without the label or color. My guess would have been ’unscented’.

It is probably just a sample thing but the whole idea of a sample, is to sample, and decide if buying a tub is worth it.
 
I would never have known, at least from my sample, that Rose is a rose scent without the label or color. My guess would have been ’unscented’.

It is probably just a sample thing but the whole idea of a sample, is to sample, and decide if buying a tub is worth it.
Interesting thread. Our ability to discern scent is so individual. Is Agrumes stronger than Rose? To my nose, yes. To others, no. I had a tub of a DG scent (Tri….) that to my nose was unscented, I couldn’t detect any scent. I sent it back for a replacement, and had the same experience. The dominant note was sandalwood; to my nose, it was an unscented soap. YMMV.
 

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Have used just one MdC: Rose. With a poor sense of smell, would describe it as very subtle, especially compared to Stirling products.

Personally, enjoying a fragrance comes from where it transports me. Scot’s Pine takes me back to sawing lumber with dad, PdP 63 a tranquil Rocky Mountain meadow, Seaforth Sea Spice Lime an oyster bar in Morro Bay, and MdC Rose the important ladies of my life: my wife and my mom.

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I often find samples lacking scent. I have all five MdC scents, and love them all. As recommended by MdC, my jars are stored with the lids off. My oldest tub (Fougere) is nearly 5 years old, scent strength has not diminished.
Interesting thread. Our ability to discern scent is so individual.
Yes, this is an interesting thread and I think my original question was answered. I knew before purchasing that MDC was not a potent scent but I believed it to be medium strength. I took a fresh sniff just now of my Rose and no detectable scent at all, while the Fougere was just very mild. At the moment I have in excess of 20 Maggards samples and it is not uncommon for me to open a sample just to enjoy the fragrance. To that end I do not have a diminished sense of smell as some samples are quite potent. A&E Vanille de Tabac, and Chiseled Face Midnight Stag (possible the most masculine scent around), are very potent.

My current takeaway is that the perceived variation of scent strength is less about whether the sample came from an open jar (since Dave states above that he stores his open, as recommended, and after years scent strength has not diminished). I frequently open some of my samples just to enjoy a whiff and have not noticed a tangible difference over time. So, to me, it seems more about variation of the original batch, especially with scents not formulated to be very potent. Why else would we have such comments and reviews that like Argumes is the weakest scent AND Argumes is stronger than Rose.
 
Have used just one MdC: Rose. With a poor sense of smell, would describe it as very subtle, especially compared to Stirling products.…Scot’s Pine takes me back to…

Recently finished a sample of Stirling Scot’s Pine. Wonderful scent, relatively weak, but stronger than my MDC Fougere, and as for Rose, well, no scent at all. Also, relatively speaking Stirling Varen is stronger then Scot’s Pine, as was there Electric Sheep (all mutton tallow soaps - my favorite soap of the Stirling line)
 
I just got a small jar of MdC Fougere, and the scent is noticeable to me, at least, but it certainly isn't a strongly scented soap like Stirling or Barrister and Mann.

That said, I enjoy the scent tremendously as it is well made and certainly seems to expand upon lathering. Agrumes is another MdC soap I own and it seems to be slightly more pronounced in scent strength. I just think MdC is a more subtly scented soap than many we find on the market today.
 
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