List of rebranded Yaqi brushes sold under different names

[Brutus]

Many members here who have read the discussion will probably have difficulty sleeping tonight.
I don't believe what the member who started the discussion wrote either.

I either buy my shaving brushes directly from the manufacturer, or from merchants whom I trust and who ideally indicate the origin of their own brand shaving brushes.
In either case, I buy from sources that I have learned to trust.
(For what it’s worth, I am not a great fan of Omega brushes anyway and only ever bought three of them in my much younger years.)

So, I am not in danger of loosing any sleep.


As for the rest, we live in the age of the Internet where anyone can claim anything and I am not going to start hyperventilating over what might or might not be.



B.

 

[Barberbite]

I either buy my shaving brushes directly from the manufacturer, or from merchants whom I trust and who ideally indicate the origin of their own brand shaving brushes.
In either case, I buy from sources that I have learned to trust.
(For what it’s worth, I am not a great fan of Omega brushes anyway and only ever bought three of them in my much younger years.)

So, I am not in danger of loosing any sleep.

It was a way of saying that some of the fans of the Omega brushes brand might have great difficulty understanding or accepting what was being falsely written in this discussion, perhaps even getting to sleep.
written seriously but also with a slight irony that some may may have understood. As long as it didn't bother anyone, no polemical intent.

Well I too can sleep peacefully in spite of everything. The 'only thing that disturbs my dreams is dreaming about snakes, as it really happened again tonight. I literally jumped out of bed.

 

[DesertIguana]

As for the rest, we live in the age of the Internet where anyone can claim anything and I am not going to start hyperventilating over what might or might not be.



B.

Been that way for years, way before internets, when greed & profit replaced.

INTREGRITY. IMHO

 

[brucered]

Been that way for years, way before internets, when greed & profit replaced.

INTREGRITY. IMHO

Did you mean "Integrity" or "InnerGritty"?

 

[DesertIguana]

INTREGRITY, is correct word, and a simple definition is:

Always doing the right thing, even when no one is looking.

 

[Rhody]

Interesting thread. It doesn’t seem like OP was out to target Omega. I believe the others on the list. In this age of globalization I’m not surprised by any of this. Even with Swiss watches there are loopholes. We may need a B&B trip to Italy to explore this in more detail.

 

[Cleanface]

I've seen several listings on the 'bay for Omeca (not Omega) that look similar to the real thing. They use the Greek letter omega on the packaging and also say made in China. Could be the source of the confusion. Just an observation.

I know what you mean. I once bought a "Certiied" Rolex

 

[DesertIguana]

Well the Chinese can do remarkable work in many areas. They can do great, good, bad, or junk work. This is all about quality control.

Honestly some of the Brush out of China like OUMO are IMHO very pricy.

These high priced Made in China approach price of Simpson and other quality products.

My rub with buying out of China is if you get did, Cody of postage back to China is pricy.

I can eat a bad $10.00 - $15.00 Brush, when like OUMO price is over $50.00, I s as m gun shy.

 

[WThomas0814]

Did you mean "Integrity" or "InnerGritty"?

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You don't need spellcheck if you have intregrity.

 

[EdHeart]

@Cher fascinating post. Thanks for taking the time to do the work to sort this out. I am absolutely not surprised.

My father had a closeout business. On a trip to China he was visiting a sock factory. He relayed this story. Before labeling, white socks on tables side-by-side. One group was labeled Fruit of the Loom and another Calvin Klein. You can imagine the retail cost difference for the exact same sock. The label was different.

Being in the business for a quite a number of years he became very jaded about the cost of things at retail. On the occasion I was out shopping with him, he shamelessly would inquire about a discount even if there were no sale. To my surprise I witnessed him getting something off, just by asking.

I've attempted this myself a few times, asking for the "Nice guy discount," or the "Birthday discount." After witnessing this and hearing his other stories, I too have a very similar disdain for over priced things. And, search for better pricing and carefully consider the wording in descriptions.

I have to imagine that the brush industry, like the mattress industry, will rename the exact same model to create allure and bring the prospective buyer under a hypnotic spell to think they're getting more than they really are.

Yeah, I'm definitely jaded!

 

[DesertIguana]

@Cher fascinating post. Thanks for taking the time to do the work to sort this out. I am absolutely not surprised.

My father had a closeout business. On a trip to China he was visiting a sock factory. He relayed this story. Before labeling, white socks on tables side-by-side. One group was labeled Fruit of the Loom and another Calvin Klein. You can imagine the retail cost difference for the exact same sock. The label was different.

Being in the business for a quite a number of years he became very jaded about the cost of things at retail. On the occasion I was out shopping with him, he shamelessly would inquire about a discount even if there were no sale. To my surprise I witnessed him getting something off, just by asking.

I've attempted this myself a few times, asking for the "Nice guy discount," or the "Birthday discount." After witnessing this and hearing his other stories, I too have a very similar disdain for over priced things. And, search for better pricing and carefully consider the wording in descriptions.

I have to imagine that the brush industry, like the mattress industry, will rename the exact same model to create allure and bring the prospective buyer under a hypnotic spell to think they're getting more than they really are.

Yeah, I'm definitely jaded!

I shop a small amount at Wal-Mart they have house brand call Great Value, funny container of many Great Value product is same as national brand.

I think product are same, one has national brand label & hi price.

Other is Wal-Mart brand, and way cheaper.

Advertising cost money, addded to retail price.

 

[ERS4]

This new account published two suspicious posts in succession, and I doubted his true purpose.


Brushes aren’t rocket science, and any brand can easily copy the look and put someone else’s logo on it.
It is irresponsible to implicate a huge brand with an outstanding reputation without solid traceability evidence.

Meanwhile, YAQI is still unscrupulously copying all the razors we know of that were designed by hardworking small workshops.
Ridiculous and laughable.

 

[Jasper J.]

I am not trying to defame anyone's reputation, or targeting anyone, its their business and their choices, I told what i saw, what i know, and i shared it, that's what this forum is for. I am not affiliated with any brush manufacturer, and all my businesses are far from wet shaving. I don't need to argue with anyone, or contact any manufacturer.

Today i was double checking everything on the Chinese wet shaving forums, not only i got the confirmation, but found bunch of other brands that are also made by Yaqi and posted them here : List of rebranded Yaqi brushes sold under different names - https://www.badgerandblade.com/forum/threads/list-of-rebranded-yaqi-brushes-sold-under-different-names.662970/post-12973862

It seems to me that some brush resellers who are benefiting from this forum are trying their best to prove me wrong.

So you would watch a Chinese forum and then say you are not Chinese? Poor acting.

 

[DesertIguana]

This new account published two suspicious posts in succession, and I doubted his true purpose.


Brushes aren’t rocket science, and any brand can easily copy the look and put someone else’s logo on it.
It is irresponsible to implicate a huge brand with an outstanding reputation without solid traceability evidence.

Meanwhile, YAQI is still unscrupulously copying all the razors we know of that were designed by hardworking small workshops.
Ridiculous and laughable.

Most of what you posted above is true, but Yaqi is in business because people buy their products. Also China as a country tend to ignore US TradeMarks, CopyWrites, and Patents. The only way for a company like say YATES Razor(example) can stop copy cat clones or counterfeit of their products, and designs is getting a Patient from the Chinese Government.

This small detail of business is not an unknown fact, but often ignored by companies around the world. What it does, the Chinese Patent is slow down, stop operation of companies who do not respect the Chinese Patent. People in China face big penalties for breaking laws.

Like I said if consumers in the World did not buy copies, counterfeit, or just price point Chinese product most would go away. As sales drive production of copy cat products, or counterfeits.

Truth is people like copy cat product, go to any Mexican Border Town you will find lots and lots of counterfeit designer hand bags, Oakley Sunglasses, and Sport Memorabilia for sale. Most made in China, and tourist buy as gift, and US Border Guard do nothing, as their mission is not look for this crime, it is stoping illegal clients, drugs, and big contraband.

 

[Cher]

So you would watch a Chinese forum and then say you are not Chinese? Poor acting.

Poor acting? You should call it a desperate move from you to prove me wrong.

I have nothing to gain saying i am chinese or not chinese, i can speak 5 languages and chinese is one of them (although i only can speak it but i can not read it), and you don't have to speak chinese to browse chinese forums, you just use google chrome with auto translate and you can read everything is your language of preference, and for videos in o you other foreign languages you can use auto caption to any language you want.

You will be amazed by the amount of information you will find on other international forums (like the chinese forums, the russians, the germans, the french, italian, spanish...etc) in some forums, in particular they not just share what they know, some collect info from other international forums and they do their own research, to correct it or add more precious info that other forums (including this forum) omitted or mistakenly reported.

I personally don't take any info as granted, i always cross check and verify the info with other sources, with insiders and those who work in the industry to get the whole picture.

 

[ERS4]

Most of what you posted above is true, but Yaqi is in business because people buy their products. Also China as a country tend to ignore US TradeMarks, CopyWrites, and Patents. The only way for a company like say YATES Razor(example) can stop copy cat clones or counterfeit of their products, and designs is getting a Patient from the Chinese Government.

This small detail of business is not an unknown fact, but often ignored by companies around the world. What it does, the Chinese Patent is slow down, stop operation of companies who do not respect the Chinese Patent. People in China face big penalties for breaking laws.

Like I said if consumers in the World did not buy copies, counterfeit, or just price point Chinese product most would go away. As sales drive production of copy cat products, or counterfeits.

Truth is people like copy cat product, go to any Mexican Border Town you will find lots and lots of counterfeit designer hand bags, Oakley Sunglasses, and Sport Memorabilia for sale. Most made in China, and tourist buy as gift, and US Border Guard do nothing, as their mission is not look for this crime, it is stoping illegal clients, drugs, and big contraband.

It is difficult for us to stop everyone’s consumption behavior, we can only be vigilant and try to avoid it.

What is even more shocking is that they not only profit from the counterfeit sales, but also turn around and imply the lack of integrity and premium of other brands.

OP really enriched my online leisure today.

 

[Cher]

Most of what you posted above is true, but Yaqi is in business because people buy their products. Also China as a country tend to ignore US TradeMarks, CopyWrites, and Patents. The only way for a company like say YATES Razor(example) can stop copy cat clones or counterfeit of their products, and designs is getting a Patient from the Chinese Government.

This small detail of business is not an unknown fact, but often ignored by companies around the world. What it does, the Chinese Patent is slow down, stop operation of companies who do not respect the Chinese Patent. People in China face big penalties for breaking laws.

Like I said if consumers in the World did not buy copies, counterfeit, or just price point Chinese product most would go away. As sales drive production of copy cat products, or counterfeits.

Truth is people like copy cat product, go to any Mexican Border Town you will find lots and lots of counterfeit designer hand bags, Oakley Sunglasses, and Sport Memorabilia for sale. Most made in China, and tourist buy as gift, and US Border Guard do nothing, as their mission is not look for this crime, it is stoping illegal clients, drugs, and big contraband.

Remember the 2013 meat scandal in europe, where big supermaret chains, meat producers, fast food chains were mixing horse meat with pig meat and sold it as beef in France, UK, Ireland...etc for years before they get caught. not only horse meat but from verified source i learn they also mixed donkey meat.
why all of that? because they can't keep up with the high prices of beef, they needed to find a cheaper alternative to make profit. its the same happening in every industry, you always have to do your own research and dont take everything as granted

 

[Jasper J.]

Poor acting? You should call it a desperate move from you to prove me wrong.

I have nothing to gain saying i am chinese or not chinese, i can speak 5 languages and chinese is one of them (although i only can speak it but i can not read it), and you don't have to speak chinese to browse chinese forums, you just use google chrome with auto translate and you can read everything is your language of preference, and for videos in o you other foreign languages you can use auto caption to any language you want.

You will be amazed by the amount of information you will find on other international forums (like the chinese forums, the russians, the germans, the french, italian, spanish...etc) in some forums, in particular they not just share what they know, some collect info from other international forums and they do their own research, to correct it or add more precious info that other forums (including this forum) omitted or mistakenly reported.

I personally don't take any info as granted, i always cross check and verify the info with other sources, with insiders and those who work in the industry to get the whole picture.

You can be brave and just say you're Chinese. People here are not stupid.The more you act, the worse you look.

 

[Cher]

You can be brave and just say you're Chinese. People here are not stupid.The more you act, the worse you look.

Don't worry, Chinese will surely tell you they are Chinese, i know them very well.

 

[Jasper J.]

Don't worry, Chinese will surely tell you they are Chinese, i know them very well.

Don't avoid the question, are you Chinese? Are you badmouthing other brands for Yaqi?