Lilac Vegetal and Cat Urine

[Ron Scott]

Well the Veg is not my favorite but its in a rotation of sorts, and they've been selling it forever so somebody likes it.

My question is how do so many men know what cat pee smells like?

I'd imagine you'd have to get extremely close to such a small puddle to register a memorable scent.

To those of you who affirm the similarity: What's your technique?

 

[dcobranchi]

You've never been in a house with a litter box?

 

[Ron Scott]

You've never been in a house with a litter box?

LOL

..."pee" smell is confounded with the litter, which is intended to mask the pee...

 

[dcobranchi]

LOL

..."pee" smell is confounded with the litter, which is intended to mask the pee...

Almost certainly not. Litter is clay. No scent whatsoever. The litter doesn't so much as mask the smell as it, somewhat, neutralizes the ammonia.

 

[Jeff_H]

Cat urine is one of the most vile liquids on the planet. We have 3 small dogs and I would much rather use their urine as aftershave than ever clean another litter box or own another cat. My wife used to be exclusively a cat person until we had a pair of extremely vile cats who pissed on the floor if their box wasn't exactly to their liking....they wanted it raked and smooth...like a sand trap. That was 10 years ago and if I close my eyes and concentrate I can still smell that wretched odor. Never again.....

 

[patrickthebassbash]

I have had a few dogs, a couple of birds and one cat in my 40something years. I never intended on having a cat, he picked us. My son was about 3 at the time and I saw him looking under a bush in our backyard. A tiny little green eyed, orange kitten came out to him, that had been living alone under that bush. We took him to the vet and found out he was 6 weeks old and healthy. We had no idea how he got there or where the rest of his family was, but we took him in and my son named him Woofie. I have no idea where he got the name, but there it is! That cat did not like to be in the house, so we set him up a sleeping area, eating area and litter box in the garage. He came and went as he pleased, and made sure any rodents in the area met a swift demise. We had him for several years, and just a few months ago he dissappeared, never to return. Actually, it looks like there all the cats in our neighborhood are gone, except for one. With Summer coming upon us, I worry the rodent population may not be kept in check, and I'm thinking about getting another cat now. Back to the point, as long as I kept that litter box cleaned and changed the clay about once a week or so, the smell never got too bad and it was worth it to have a good little friend and no rodents.

 

[luvmysuper]

Someone made a joking comparison somewhere, and it just spread. It's become a running joke for so long that it has become a self fulfilling prophecy with people swearing that the Veg smells like urine.
There's many things that the Veg could be mistaken for, but cat urine isn't one.

I assume the association with urine comes from the use of lilac fragrance used in urinal pucks in restrooms in commercial establishments. For some, they have transferred the "woodsy / earthy" vegetal scent of the Veg to the back odor in a restroom because of the association with the urinal puck thing.

The Veg was also frequently used to mask the scent of urine on people in "old folks homes". Again, taking a great scent and ruining it with a bad association.

FWIW, caretakers also used to use the Veg on bodies on public display before the art of undertaking had reached its zenith.

 

[patrickthebassbash]

FWIW, caretakers also used to use the Veg on bodies on public display before the art of undertaking had reached its zenith.

Really?! Wow, The Veg goes back quite a way, doesn't it?!

 

[luvmysuper]

Really?! Wow, The Veg goes back quite a way, doesn't it?!

http://www.clubman.com/about_01.shtml

To say that the Pinaud brand and its Clubman line of fine men’s toiletries have staying power is an understatement. After all, men have been using the products since 1810 when Edouard Pinaud, a perfumer, opened a shop in Paris. The house of Ed Pinaud, as it was called, sold perfumes, shaving soaps, creams, ace and complexion powders and dozens of other beauty and grooming products. Pinaud’s specialties included the Eau de Quinine, a fragrance for hair, as well as perfumes by the name of Violette Reine, Brise embaumee Violette, Boquet de Foscarina, Genet d’Or and Marie Louise. Pinaud also served as the perfumer for the court of Napoleon III and created his first aftershave, Lilac Vegetal for the Hungarian calvalry. He later launched his Clubman line of products, commissioning an artist to create the trademark dapper Frenchman for the labels.

 

[Legion]

Someone made a joking comparison somewhere, and it just spread. It's become a running joke for so long that it has become a self fulfilling prophecy with people swearing that the Veg smells like urine.
There's many things that the Veg could be mistaken for, but cat urine isn't one.

I assume the association with urine comes from the use of lilac fragrance used in urinal pucks in restrooms in commercial establishments. For some, they have transferred the "woodsy / earthy" vegetal scent of the Veg to the back odor in a restroom because of the association with the urinal puck thing.

The Veg was also frequently used to mask the scent of urine on people in "old folks homes". Again, taking a great scent and ruining it with a bad association.

FWIW, caretakers also used to use the Veg on bodies on public display before the art of undertaking had reached its zenith.

For real? Man, that's another thing I am going to have to stipulate against in my will. That would just be great, having to enter the afterlife stinking of the Veg.

 

[mblakele]

I have had a few dogs, a couple of birds and one cat in my 40something years. I never intended on having a cat, he picked us. My son was about 3 at the time and I saw him looking under a bush in our backyard. A tiny little green eyed, orange kitten came out to him, that had been living alone under that bush. We took him to the vet and found out he was 6 weeks old and healthy. We had no idea how he got there or where the rest of his family was, but we took him in and my son named him Woofie. I have no idea where he got the name, but there it is! That cat did not like to be in the house, so we set him up a sleeping area, eating area and litter box in the garage. He came and went as he pleased, and made sure any rodents in the area met a swift demise. We had him for several years, and just a few months ago he dissappeared, never to return. Actually, it looks like there all the cats in our neighborhood are gone, except for one. With Summer coming upon us, I worry the rodent population may not be kept in check, and I'm thinking about getting another cat now. Back to the point, as long as I kept that litter box cleaned and changed the clay about once a week or so, the smell never got too bad and it was worth it to have a good little friend and no rodents.

Sounds like coyotes moved in. Sorry to hear about that.

To the thread topic, I think Phil has the right end of the stick. The association is psychological: lilac was a popular scent, so it was imitated by cheap products like bathroom disinfectants and scented cat litter. Nowadays some folks have strong associations with those imitations, staining the original.

 

[luvmysuper]

For real? Man, that's another thing I am going to have to stipulate against in my will. That would just be great, having to enter the afterlife stinking of the Veg.

I can only assume you haven't visited the Sistine Chapel.

 

[Emanon]

Seriously? How can anyone have never smelled cat pee? Cat pee, litter boxes, dog crap, wet dog smell, cat lady houses, baby poop. grown up poop...all distinctive and common smells in life if you ask me. All easily identifiable too.

 

[WVUfanMG]

Seriously? How can anyone have never smelled cat pee? Cat pee, litter boxes, dog crap, wet dog smell, cat lady houses, baby poop. grown up poop...all distinctive and common smells in life if you ask me. All easily identifiable too.

Amen

That is all.

 

[TheVez2]

I have smelled cat pee before. Granted it is a very unique and distinguishable scent. I had smelled it in other peoples homes as a kid. When a cat pees on the carpet, it is bad! I hate cats. But my wife decided to get a cat for my daughter, then we got another, and we now have two cats. The litter box has NEVER smelled like cat pee, poop yes, but never pee. The litter box seems to take care of it. Thankfully our house has never smelled of cat pee.

That said, I love The Veg, and it smells NOTHING like cat pee.

 

[Ron Scott]

Seriously? How can anyone have never smelled cat pee?

If you think this is a serious thread I have a bridge to sell you...

That aside, don't you people train your cats???

 

[SteveWY]

OK, I've had it with the "Cat Pee" metaphor. I have had and been around cats all my life. I've even been around the pee of wild felids like bobcats and mountain lions. I know pee. The Veg is no pee!

In recognition of these undeniable truths.... I am devoting the remainder of the week to using only Lilac Vegetal! Semper Fidelis! Long live the Veg!

 

[Ron Scott]

OK, I've had it with the "Cat Pee" metaphor. I have had and been around cats all my life. I've even been around the pee of wild felids like bobcats and mountain lions. I know pee. The Veg is no pee!

In recognition of these undeniable truths.... I am devoting the remainder of the week to using only Lilac Vegetal! Semper Fidelis! Long live the Veg!

Rock the veg man...I'm joining ya?

 

[Emanon]

I had the same bad experience the first time I was in a store and sniffed the VEG out of it's bottle. However I persevered, returned to the store, bought it and transferred it to glass. I have used it and it was good. Then I waited another week and used it again today and it has now become a pleasing, floral bouquet with hidden background notes. And most of all, not a trace of anything like urine.

Done!

 

[SteveWY]

As I promised, today was Lilac Day. I used Honeybee Spa Lilac shaving soap, my '59 Gillette Adjustable + Astra SP blade. Nice BBS. Cold water rinse, pat dry and..........

NICE!