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I think it would be tough to copy the Henson properly without tremendous machining skills. The Shave window is incredibly small which means the machining tolerance needs to be incredibly tight. All the ali machined razors I've tried don't have the best machining tolerances, and i think the Chinese finishing process makes this even worse
 
I think it would be tough to copy the Henson properly without tremendous machining skills.
It's strange that only the Chinese can do so precisely. That's the same thing I was thinking. It should not be easy to copy, but I want to emphasize what you wrote “copy correctly” that is, the Chinese razor in addition to being a perfect copy would work just as well as the original one.

So many of the comments you read write and report that apart from small imperfections such as scratches or other imperfections on the razor head, otherwise it seems to work well. As much as it seems quite obvious that they are just imitations to boot, one buyer in the comment wrote that it is the original. :biggrin1:

Many studies and sensational projects behind the design of razors made in the Europa, USA, Canada where we talk about super technology, aerospace projects, everything perfect, the Chinese arrive after a couple of years and have already copied it perfectly. But above all, if their copies didn't work, they obviously wouldn't create problems for anyone because no one would buy them.
 
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They are real I've bought all three they are used that's why they are cheap they have water spots but I was able to remove them easily with hot water soap and a tooth brush
 
They are real I've bought all three they are used that's why they are cheap they have water spots but I was able to remove them easily with hot water soap and a tooth brush
How can you say they are only used? Do you mean to say that the ones you received might be original, old, used razors?
It really makes me smile about this, not just the Chinese copies of the Canadian razor. Could we find out more soon?

That's enough for me.
 

EclipseRedRing

I smell like a Christmas pudding
I only use vintage razors so this does not affect me but an interesting thread. I would think that if there are copies, or even simply rumours of copies, which are indistinguishable from the original, especially without an original with which to compare as is often the case, then it must inevitably lead to lack of confidence in razors offered on the second hand market, causing prices to drop.
 
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How can you say they are only used? Do you mean to say that the ones you received might be original, old, used razors?
It really makes me smile about this, not just the Chinese copies of the Canadian razor. Could we find out more soon?

That's enough for me.
The ones I received are real and they appear to be second hand and a few others on Facebook bought them and said the same thing
 
Synthesis.
Suspicions. I have already received an official email from RasoigGoodfellas/Barbieri Uniti with the title "Counterfeit goods under the The Goodfellas' smile brand", I will read it later. it seems that they have set up a dedicated email for doubts and/or clarifications and are informing customers who purchase from them.
 

Iridian

Cool and slimy
Not Henson, but related:

 
Just got an email from Goodfellas (Italy) advising not to buy knockoffs from Asia. They said to use their authorized sellers that display their official logo.
 
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Also...as people are suggesting it could be that offshore manufacturers are selling direct.

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gpjoe

Slickness is a sickness
To design something would usually take much longer than to copy something. The designer has already done all the hard work for the copier: coming up with the idea, testing all the different variations, creating drawings and specifications, planning how to manufacture, etc. The copier just needs to acquire one of the original items and measure it to find out the dimensions and look at it to get an idea of how it may have been manufactured. Depending on the equipment you have and how much you care about being exact, this is not terribly difficult. Then the only remaining hard work for the copier is to just figure out a reasonable tolerance to keep. Again, the tolerances only depends how much they care about an exact copy. They could be double the tolerance and as long as it works, many people might not know the difference unless they have an original to compare to.

And presumably someone would not embark on this unless they already had the equipment and people to execute. So, it doesn't seem surprising to me that they are willing to offer them at such a comparably low cost.

Precisely.

China is the King of Klones, Kopies, and Kounterfeits. It is far less expensive to buy one genuine item and reverse engineer it vs developing anything original and creating a market. Let Henson do all the work, including advertising and creating a market.

This really shouldn't surprise anyone as China seems to ignore any foreign patent laws and operates unbound by and sense of business ethics.

Buyer beware (spend the extra 30 bucks).
 
This is the actual knock off from Aliexpress that I mentioned in an earlier post regarding receiving an email from Goodfellas. They call it "Italy SYNTESI" but in their specifications statement made in China. It's made of 303 stainless steel. Back to the email they will not say knock off from China but say an Asian country.

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Counterfeits and clones do a disservice to the innovators that create products at their own risk. Perhaps these counterfeits, while looking genuine, provide an inferior experience thus denigrating the real product.

I will not support any company that steals another’s intellectual property. Even the hint of a theft stopped production on a highly acclaimed adjustable razor that many reviewers rated superior to the razor it was accused of copying. In a country with laws and ethics to do otherwise would just be wrong.

These razors will never find there way to me. Since I have been shaving (Gillette was the dominant DE maker when I began) companies have come and gone and even returned again.

We owe it to the surviving companies to not purchase from those that steal their innovations.

And yes, my watch is real because I feel the same way about watches.
 
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BobbyBacala

This is the actual knock off from Aliexpress that I mentioned in an earlier post regarding receiving an email from Goodfellas. They call it "Italy SYNTESI" but in their specifications statement made in China. It's made of 303 stainless steel. Back to the email they will not say knock off from China but say an Asian country.

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It comes with the actual syntesi case it's not a knock off
 

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It comes with the actual syntesi case it's not a knock off
So also this Syntesi TGS razor is also used/second hand?
Can you let us know what numbers are on top caps of your Henson razors?
To rule out the possibility that the numbers listed on cap of Chinese Henson razor copies are the same.
 
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So also this Syntesi TGS razor is also used/second hand?
Can you let us know what numbers are on top caps of your Henson razors?
To rule out the possibility that the numbers listed on cap of Chinese Henson razor copies are the same.
The henson i didn't buy i bought the nodachi, syntesi and the rocca the rocca is on the way in the mail
 
The henson i didn't buy i bought the nodachi, syntesi and the rocca the rocca is on the way in the mail
In your post #86 you had written that you bought all three, so at least I understood that you got all three models of the Canadian razor featured on the Aliexpress store. I think they are three different ones, only the different plus classification changes. I don't know if correct though, I have not bought them and do not intend to.

Okay then you don't have the Henson copy, that's clear now.

This story of imitation and/or used razors from China is going to become a soap opera.
 
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