Knockoff henson
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I don't know in which country these original razors are made and this information does not appear to be doesn't seem to be listed on the manufacturers' or production companies' websites. If you want to correct me, go ahead. I may have missed it due to an oversight.
I'm not sure which specific razor you're referring to, but most of them come from the United States, Canada, and Europe. For example, wolfman is from Canada, and Athena is from Greece.This is all publicly available information.
A company that has its administrative and registered office in the USA rather than in any other part of the world does not exclude that the products and goods it markets may be processed and/or produced in China or elsewhere. With this you should understand the reason for my previous question.
Warning/Disclaimer: This was just a fake story for discussion purposes. I do not recommend buying it, as there’s no confirmation about its authenticity or quality. Proceed at your own risk!
Okay, I guess I’m either the dumb guy or the winner
—but I decided to give it a shot. I previously had the Henson v1 (original) Mild and just got the ++ version… and it’s arrived!
While waiting, I watched almost every YouTube video on the original Henson v2. I can’t compare mine directly to the official v2 ++, but honestly, it looks identical.
I don’t know much about Henson’s manufacturing process (since I’m not a fan of how it shaves), but my guess is that they produce their razors in China and then ship them to Canada. Just speculation, of course. Maybe someone is taking razors off the production line or selling ones with minor defects? Who knows! Anyway it was just for fun.
Okay, I guess I’m either the dumb guy or the winner
—but I decided to give it a shot. I previously had the Henson v1 (original) Mild and just got the ++ version… and it’s arrived!While waiting, I watched almost every YouTube video on the original Henson v2. I can’t compare mine directly to the official v2 ++, but honestly, it looks identical.
I don’t know much about Henson’s manufacturing process (since I’m not a fan of how it shaves), but my guess is that they produce their razors in China and then ship them to Canada. Just speculation, of course. Maybe someone is taking razors off the production line or selling ones with minor defects? Who knows! Anyway it was just for fun.
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The ironic thing is, that was basically the original price when they first offered it..not even 5 years ago.
The demand was (probably still is) very huge so year by year they increased the price. This is for the aluminum. The titanium version on the other hand, has very little if that, and pricing has remained steady (most likely because it has always been more expensive).
If you had a time machine it would probably be better to hit the 1 billion dollar lottery.I also remember when bitcoins sold for under $50…if only I had a time machine!
Jus' sayin.'
Henson makes their razors in Canada...not China. Re-read my post #41 on this thread. The razors bought from China are most likely very good copies. I would bet that if you measured the dimensions of the actual Henson and the Clone, using the proper equipment...you would find that the dimensions would not be identical. I would be extremely surprised if they were identical. I would also bet that the material grades (Aluminum and Tungsten) are not the same. Also, I would be astonished if the clone razor were manufactured with .00025 tolerances and with the international AS9100 certification which guarantees the quality. Not all CMC machines have the same capabilities, and the machines that Henson has are off the charts expensive...and not like those at most razor manufacturers. Yates razors are very good, but the machines they are milled on are nothing close to those that Henson uses. There is a huge difference in Aerospace standards and "Joe Blow" standards.
A few things that confuse me are the blades and the box itself—they look identical to the original. As far as I understand, the blades that Henson (original) ships with their razors are their own.
We all know that Chinese companies clone almost everything (just look at Yaqi). But why would this Chinese seller go through the trouble of producing the original box, original blades, and even the blade packaging —just to sell it at half the price?! It doesn’t make much sense.
We all know that Chinese companies clone almost everything (just look at Yaqi). But why would this Chinese seller go through the trouble of producing the original box, original blades, and even the blade packaging —just to sell it at half the price?! It doesn’t make much sense.
Did it escape your notice that in addition to the Canadian razor on Aliexpress it is possible to find other suspected imitations or non-legitimate razors of other famous Syntesi and Tatara brands?
Yaqi's imitations and homages to other razors are considered legitimate.
As for Henson, I suspect that if they were just knockoff razors or clones I think the RK blades are simply original and the operation of copying a box in China shouldn't be that complex.
Much more complex to copy a razor design that has been on the market for five years. For me it shouldn't be so simple that a manufacturer maybe takes many years to make a particular razor design and after only a few years the Chinese are already copying it. Incredible.
I don't know if there is probably anything else that we enthusiasts and buyers don't know and will never know how things are.
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In the meantime, I set about ordering one of these razors. I just want to see if they match the original...It's just to check if as I was doubting at least the razor blades they put in are the original ones. 
Honestly, I’m not an AliExpress customer, and I usually prefer to avoid buying this kind of Chinese knockoff junk. But this Henson really caught my attention.
I didn’t even know about the Tatara clone—should’ve ordered that instead, lol. It would’ve been interesting to compare it to my original Tatara Masamune!
To design something would usually take much longer than to copy something. The designer has already done all the hard work for the copier: coming up with the idea, testing all the different variations, creating drawings and specifications, planning how to manufacture, etc. The copier just needs to acquire one of the original items and measure it to find out the dimensions and look at it to get an idea of how it may have been manufactured. Depending on the equipment you have and how much you care about being exact, this is not terribly difficult. Then the only remaining hard work for the copier is to just figure out a reasonable tolerance to keep. Again, the tolerances only depends how much they care about an exact copy. They could be double the tolerance and as long as it works, many people might not know the difference unless they have an original to compare to.
And presumably someone would not embark on this unless they already had the equipment and people to execute. So, it doesn't seem surprising to me that they are willing to offer them at such a comparably low cost.
To date no manufacturer or owner of the brands of these suspected imitated or suspected non-legitimate razor sold in that store on Aliexpress has officially intervened on their official websites or Facebook pages to tell us anything about what is happening. so today we cannot know if those sold on in that shop are fake, imitations, originals or whatever.
Maybe they don't know it either. I invite you to watch the video in my post #69 from min 34".15′
I understand my difficulties.
I don't trust what the manufacturers say about where their original razors are made until I I find the word "Totally and exclusively made in..." written on their websites.
Well yeah, I guess I won't have to say anything else.
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I was intending to respond specifically to your thoughts about the difficulty of copying in the sentence I quoted. However, speaking particularly of the Henson razor, I'm not sure if this from the FAQ page on their website is enough to meet your criteria:
"Where are Henson razors manufactured?
Our Razors are fully designed, manufactured, assembled and packaged in Canada.
RK Stainless blades are manufactured and packaged in India."
I watched the video to about 41m. It doesn't seem to offer anything conclusive or helpful, except that everyone doesn't seem to know.
Two reviews on Aliexpress regarding the Canada razors (AKA Henson) are as follows:
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1. Couldn't get the top and bottom plates together.
2. Peeling on the bottom of the razor
Sounds like these knockoffs are being made like junk.
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1. Couldn't get the top and bottom plates together.
2. Peeling on the bottom of the razor
Sounds like these knockoffs are being made like junk.
A bit strange. Of the three imitation Canadian razor models I looked at the comments left below and thirteen out of fifteen opinions or reviews were positive. I think I counted right. Agreed, perhaps many inexperienced users, however they seem to keep buying.
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