Chan Eil Whiskers
Fumbling about.
When was the "Like" button added? I never saw any use of it until today.
Wonder why.
Happy shaves,
Jim
Kill the edge?
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When was the "Like" button added? I never saw any use of it until today.
Wonder why.
Happy shaves,
Jim
It was added per your request.
Chan Eil Whiskers
Fumbling about.
It was added per your request.
Wow!
Bread-knifing or what I called jointing an edge is a way to prove a razor is dull, and that is one of the reason why I did that in my videos. I got guff for it for a while, but I always suspected that those guffer guys had never really tried it.
Jointing an edge is just a technique and it does have benefits.
It weakens an edge and if done to a minimal degree does not degrade the edge.
It exposes solid steel, the true apex of side A and B by folding over the feather edge.
Doing it can shorten the honing time by having that steel folded over where it is vulnerable.
If you don't go overboard with the actual honing, like adding hundreds and hundreds of strokes on top of an already finished an keen edge, a ultra fine apex can be reached very quickly.
Some steels are more tenacious than others, so sometimes it can be difficult to gently hone off a feather/false edge. Jointing can help.
Alex
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Steve56
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You can also ’breadknife’ with the spine held slightly off the hone rather than 90 degrees like slicing a loaf of bread. It’s a little faster to bring the edge back.
It's brilliant - there are so many posts that I enjoy and where I want to let the authors know but being British can't find anything suitable to say. A like button takes all the stress out of acknowledging them.It was added per your request.
If you're making a video, I suppose it helps to demonstrate that you actually did something in the video. While I do see advantages to using stone over glass to kill an edge, I do agree with comments about this being a way to demonstrate there is a fresh edge all along the edge versus leaning on an edge that already existed. And for the sake of those posting videos about it, this seems to be a fairly agreed upon way of establishing the edge is no longer cutting before beginning work.
As for bringing the edge back, regardless of how easy it is, the general idea is that the cutting edge was either folded over (glass) or abades away (stone). I think it is interesting people are referencing the ability to bring an edge back with just a strop, but not acknowledging the ability of clean leather to actually abade metal, which does seem to be what is occuring for those that can bring a glassed edge back with a plain leather strop.... the folded edge is abaded away, leaning on the pre-existing bevel geometry.
As for the gouges on old coticules, I've personally used coticules for chip removal and bevel setting and have found it easier to deal with chips if I "kill the edge" several times in my bevel setting stages until the chips are gone. It's a pretty aggressive way to take care of nick in the edge, but I'd be willing to bet a lot of those barbers with gouges in their stones are doing chip removal after dropping a straight.
Chan Eil Whiskers
Fumbling about.
This thread continues to inform, educate, and be thought provoking.
Happy shaves,
Jim
Nice! I could see that making a near full recovery with skilled stropping like others have said.
Any pics of breadknifed edge off a hone?
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