Yes it is beautiful but too heavy, only Qshave and other Futur clones, but not the original Futur, have the right weight for me. If you like so heavy razor you should also try Vikings Blade Emperor Augustus which you can send back to Amazon if you don't like it
Karve vs. Muhle R41 (post 2013) vs...
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I have a Karve with OCB and SBE. I'm a daily shaver. I'd like to try a more aggressive OC, so I look forward to hearing what you think of the OCF.
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The Parker is impressive! I figured out how to get under the nose and now i’ve got bbs throughout. D a n g!
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So it’s crazy. I started at 3.5 because I had light growth, by the last pass I was up to 4.5.
I don’t know why people go down. So far I start low and get more aggressive as the shave progresses. The razor is gentle enough to allow for it.
I’m pretty impressed. I wish the razor was as sexy as the Karve or the 41. It’s a nice shave.
Sorry for the delay in responding to this, but you're very welcome!
I too have a Karve with several SB plates, but it's yet to be shaved with. I did handle it a bit though, and absolutely loved the way it feels and looks. Like yourself, I really want to like this thing! So anyway, I'll get around to shaving with it before too long, and again like yourself - if I'm not thrilled with the SB plates I'll give the OC plates a go.
But let's remember this: Even if we don't like the shave, we end-up with a really kick-butt standard threaded handle. And that's not such a bad thing!
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Karve Update:
The “C” plate arrived, and today I shave. As I prepare, I feel a little anxious I guess. If this shave doesn’t work... as @Capisco Capisce says, I’ll have a kick-butt handle. A very kick-butt expensive handle that I don’t need lol. I know I still have the open comb E coming, but if this plate doesn’t work for me, I just can’t see the E working, but you never know.
I’ve decided to give the Personna Reds another go. They work for me in my 41, and they worked for me in the Parker. I’m assuming that my inexperience with this razor the first time I used it, is why they didn’t work perfectly that time.
Off I go!
And it was... bad.
I mean, not awful, just not good either. As in, I’m waisting time on this thing now. It was comfortable, but it just can’t hit my problem areas. So why move forward with it when the 41 and the Parker do?
I’ll see hoe the open comb E fairs, but I got to tell you, I’m just not holding out hope at this point.
What is interesting though, is putting the Mühle head on these plates. They fit and I think it’s enough of an angle change that it might make a difference. I’ll try it next... might as well being I’m not going to sell it until I try the E.
The “C” plate arrived, and today I shave. As I prepare, I feel a little anxious I guess. If this shave doesn’t work... as @Capisco Capisce says, I’ll have a kick-butt handle. A very kick-butt expensive handle that I don’t need lol. I know I still have the open comb E coming, but if this plate doesn’t work for me, I just can’t see the E working, but you never know.
I’ve decided to give the Personna Reds another go. They work for me in my 41, and they worked for me in the Parker. I’m assuming that my inexperience with this razor the first time I used it, is why they didn’t work perfectly that time.
Off I go!
And it was... bad.
I mean, not awful, just not good either. As in, I’m waisting time on this thing now. It was comfortable, but it just can’t hit my problem areas. So why move forward with it when the 41 and the Parker do?
I’ll see hoe the open comb E fairs, but I got to tell you, I’m just not holding out hope at this point.
What is interesting though, is putting the Mühle head on these plates. They fit and I think it’s enough of an angle change that it might make a difference. I’ll try it next... might as well being I’m not going to sell it until I try the E.
Shim it to get a general idea how the next plate will shave.
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I’ve done that with other razors. It never works out exactly. Not going to waste good shaves chasing a Unicorn when I have perfectly awesome alternatives at hand. They just aren’t as good looking! I really, really wanted to love this razor... it’s stupid pretty lol!
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Thought I’d share a PM I sent to a fellow member who would rather pm than post on the thread.
“Thanks for reaching out <Withheld> - you’re the second person to tell me to switch up my angles. Just so you know, I’m by no means offended by your statement, actually I’m grateful, and I should probably address that on the thread.
The fact is, there’s no question that you need to have the right angle of attack for the Karve to work. No question. And every shave with it has seen me listen and feel for the proper angle of attack. It’s just not working for me.
I’m confident thar the C is not efficient enough for me, and that the E is just somehow too aggressive, and not efficient enough (though very, very close) to take the R41s throne.
I’m open to the open comb E, but I’m not holding out hope. I mean the fact is, not every razor works for everyone. It’s that simple really. In spite of how much I’d rather that not be the case considering how attractive I find the razor.
I know that finding the right angle of attack is critical. I’ve found that angle on 5 DEs, my Feather Artist Club, and countless straights... If the Karve’s angle of attack is that illusive for me, then so be it.”
“Thanks for reaching out <Withheld> - you’re the second person to tell me to switch up my angles. Just so you know, I’m by no means offended by your statement, actually I’m grateful, and I should probably address that on the thread.
The fact is, there’s no question that you need to have the right angle of attack for the Karve to work. No question. And every shave with it has seen me listen and feel for the proper angle of attack. It’s just not working for me.
I’m confident thar the C is not efficient enough for me, and that the E is just somehow too aggressive, and not efficient enough (though very, very close) to take the R41s throne.
I’m open to the open comb E, but I’m not holding out hope. I mean the fact is, not every razor works for everyone. It’s that simple really. In spite of how much I’d rather that not be the case considering how attractive I find the razor.
I know that finding the right angle of attack is critical. I’ve found that angle on 5 DEs, my Feather Artist Club, and countless straights... If the Karve’s angle of attack is that illusive for me, then so be it.”
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Look what just got in!! Lol!
It’ll be a couple of days. I can’t wait though.
It’ll be a couple of days. I can’t wait though.
Interesting. Watching this.
Had my first shave with it yesterday and it was good.
Today I concentrated on finding the angle that worked best for me and was rewarded with a very audible feedback when I got it right. 2 pass BBS everywhere. No cuts, no weepers.
Sucks this thing isn’t working for you.
Had my first shave with it yesterday and it was good.
Today I concentrated on finding the angle that worked best for me and was rewarded with a very audible feedback when I got it right. 2 pass BBS everywhere. No cuts, no weepers.
Sucks this thing isn’t working for you.
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I’m really enjoying your thread too - and I’m overjoyed it’s working for you. Truly. It’s a beautiful razor. But yeah, not every razor works for everyone. And so far...
I’m trying the E next, then with a Mühle head. If that doesn’t work... bah, i’ll sell it or hang it up. I mean this thing is good looking!
I have both, and I think you will find a difference with the open comb. I think I prefer it.
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Thanks! That’s encouraging!
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Update:
I’m not going to lie, I wasn’t holding out much hope on the open comb F plate. I just couldn’t see how it would be that much better than my D plate which has been leaving my pretty disappointed, but it is. I got a damn fine shave with it.
I used the same Personna Red that I tried with the C plate, so I didn’t expect any burn, but I didn’t expect this close either. I’m impressed. I’m going to hold my breath and try it again next shave. I’m very hopeful!
I’m not going to lie, I wasn’t holding out much hope on the open comb F plate. I just couldn’t see how it would be that much better than my D plate which has been leaving my pretty disappointed, but it is. I got a damn fine shave with it.
I used the same Personna Red that I tried with the C plate, so I didn’t expect any burn, but I didn’t expect this close either. I’m impressed. I’m going to hold my breath and try it again next shave. I’m very hopeful!
Noice! Hopefully it works out for you!
You can use a merkur progress cap or any long threaded cap from merkur. It makes the head profile a bit thinner and couple of grams lighter. I actually find the smooth adjustment knob better for fine tuning between 2 numbers.
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Thanks for the heads-up.
