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Jumping into straight razors

Hi, after having used various razors, from DE, SE, an AC Clone and a Sedef with an injector blade in it (last one only a few times, but I really like the angle and challenge.) I've decided to get into straight razors and I'd like to ask for help in this matter.

I've been in contact with an old barber in my country, who may be the last professional here to use straight razors to shave clients. And he sells all the equipment one needs, including Ralf Aust razors. I had a long chat with him over the phone, where he told me that actually has more of a preference for wedge razors, but that it is hard for him to find a modern alternative to these, hench why he setteled for the Ralf Aust's. Despite them not being a wedge. (From my understanding)

In the past he sold Eskilstuna straights and Ersen straights. He didnt have anymore of these, but he told me that he ordered 9 wedge straights in the past, from an American who no longer makes straights. He has one of these left, not listed on his site and he offered me a good deal on this with a strop included. Obviously he sells these razors shave ready, since he is able to hone and everything, due to his education as a barber in the late 60's.

On his site I've also seen that he at one point sold custom straights from a smith in Lithuania, which also seems to have been of the wedge design. So to me it looks like he really swears by them.

When I add up the prices between that offer + stone, and the Ralf Aust + equipment it becomes about even. So I am in a pickle about what path I wish to take here. And I was hoping that the people here with more experience could share their thoughts on the matter.

On one hand, I've read that Ralf Aust is a good brand, but the wedge straight razor also sounds appealing. Considering his sincere communication on the manner, as well as his enthusiasm for straights.
 
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The single most important first move is that the razor is honed by someone that shaves with a straight daily. If your barber is in that category, then most of the other decisions are of little import.

Should you start with a wedge? Sure; there are less of them sold new, but you can find plenty of vintage ones. Just note that a wedge gives little to no feedback, which is fine when shaving someone else, but is a helpful auditory tool when you are learning. You'll develop a preference over time, so don't sweat it too much.

Who is the American wedge maker he is offering to sell you? It would be helpful to know... How big is the razor? You'd generally learn with a 5/8 or 6/8.

I'd not buy a stone at this point. You'll have enough on your hands just learning to shave, and honing is a whole other skill that you want to practice on a beater, not your daily shaver. Pick up a cheap ebay vintage for that part of your journey.

I started with a Ralf Aust and it was a good razor. It came with a decent edge, but nothing to get too excited about. Mine was a 5/8, which I found a little to small for my hands and my old beard. The strop that I got from Ralf was fine, and I still use it today.

Good luck! It's a fun journey, and you'll learn a lot along the way. Keep us posted with your progress. :)
 
The single most important first move is that the razor is honed by someone that shaves with a straight daily. If your barber is in that category, then most of the other decisions are of little import.

Should you start with a wedge? Sure; there are less of them sold new, but you can find plenty of vintage ones. Just note that a wedge gives little to no feedback, which is fine when shaving someone else, but is a helpful auditory tool when you are learning. You'll develop a preference over time, so don't sweat it too much.

Who is the American wedge maker he is offering to sell you? It would be helpful to know... How big is the razor? You'd generally learn with a 5/8 or 6/8.

I'd not buy a stone at this point. You'll have enough on your hands just learning to shave, and honing is a whole other skill that you want to practice on a beater, not your daily shaver. Pick up a cheap ebay vintage for that part of your journey.

I started with a Ralf Aust and it was a good razor. It came with a decent edge, but nothing to get too excited about. Mine was a 5/8, which I found a little to small for my hands and my old beard. The strop that I got from Ralf was fine, and I still use it today.

Good luck! It's a fun journey, and you'll learn a lot along the way. Keep us posted with your progress. :)
I'm gonna try to find out some more info from him regarding the wedge one.

And you make a good point about buying another straight to practice honing for, since then I can compare it when honed to the other.

I'm lucky enough that there is a site in my country where I can buy vintage and other branded straights that are pre-owned. Instead of making a new thread I figured that its better to use this thread for that purpose as well.

As far as a practice honing straight goes I have several options. One of them is a straight made by Smith&Wesson, but I dont know anything about them. So I'll attach some pictures from the seller. I can get it for about 32 USD, once converted from my currency. Would this be ideal, or should I keep looking? The seller says it is unused.

If it ain't any good then I got other options, but I am gonna look over the others a bit more before I share them here.

(Edit: Alright, after having looked a bit more I worry that this may only be a "show piece" unless otherwise stated by somebody with more experience, so I'll throw in a second find.)

Found this too:

Daniel Peres , Solingen , mod.Puritan: For about 29 USD.
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Please don't spend a cent on that S&W. Letter opener at best.
I doubt that S&W had anything to do with that thing but that's another story.
Where are you located? Norway based on your avatar?
Then I had the correct hunch that it wasnt a propper straight, it shall go straight off the list, no pun intended. And yeah, you're correct, I'm from Norway.
 
If you really are looking for a new near wedge straight razor check out Riga Razors. They are made in Latvia currently. The blades are a sizable heft of steel and can fill your desire for a wedge. They are very well made and definitely will come with a brilliant shave ready edge.
They are sold in eBay. They however might be more than you care to spend but looking at them is free.
 
If you really are looking for a new near wedge straight razor check out Riga Razors. They are made in Latvia currently. The blades are a sizable heft of steel and can fill your desire for a wedge. They are very well made and definitely will come with a brilliant shave ready edge.
They are sold in eBay. They however might be more than you care to spend but looking at them is free.
Thanks for the tip! Yeah, the price is a bit steep in regards to what I want to spend for a first straight, but funny enough those straights they sell look identical to the ones the barber I talked about used to sell, which also was from Latvia. Interesting.
 
Alright, after having looked a bit more I think I may have found an ideal "beater" straight. Its n W. Gregory & Son Sheffield - The Celebrated King William Razor. Its cleaned and shave ready, and the seller says it is in between a 5/8 and 6/8. It has some marks, but based on what I've seen about vintages around here its not uncommon?

I take it that it is better to buy one that is shave ready, so it is easier to compare how it should behave once you've honed it yourself? Its 65 USD.

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Then I had the correct hunch that it wasnt a propper straight, it shall go straight off the list, no pun intended. And yeah, you're correct, I'm from Norway.
Hi. I am located in Stavanger.
I can hone a reference razor for you to compare your honing results to.
You just have to pay for the shipping.

Currently there are two good Dovo 5/8 razors at our local online marked place finn.no.
If you buy from Ebay you are hit with high shipping and import fees that are probably quite close to the cost of a razor you can get from Norway.

I will not hone any Chinese letter openers, or razors with pitting near the edge. Stay away from those.
 
You can get lucky and get a shave ready razor.
Sheffield steel is hard to mess up;)
Ah, understood. All the razors I have shown here are all from finn.no. I also want to try and avoid ebay for that very reason you stated above. The new custom rules that came into effect a long while ago is just pure pain for purchasing stuff online, outside of the country. See issues all the time at my worplace, since part of my job is to hand out parcels to customers who use posten.

Do you think the sheffield I shared above is ideal then, based on the info I have given?
 
Ah, understood. All the razors I have shown here are all from finn.no. I also want to try and avoid ebay for that very reason you stated above. The new custom rules that came into effect a long while ago is just pure pain for purchasing stuff online, outside of the country. See issues all the time at my worplace, since part of my job is to hand out parcels to customers who use posten.

Do you think the sheffield I shared above is ideal then, based on the info I have given?
If the seller haven't blown the temper it should be a good razor.
If there is blue hue to the steel someone messed up on a buffer.

It's more difficult to judge pitting. You might need to remove more steel then you think. This doesn't seem to be a problem with this one.

Old Sheffield steel can be really nice.

Where are you located?
 
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If the seller haven't blown the temper it should be a good razor.
If there is blue hue to the steel someone messed up on a buffer.

It's more difficult to judge pitting. You might need to remove more steel then you think. This doesn't seem to be a problem with this one.

Old Sheffield steel can be really nice.

Where are you located?
I'm located in Aurskog-Høland county, in eastern Norway.
 
Thanks for the tip! Yeah, the price is a bit steep in regards to what I want to spend for a first straight, but funny enough those straights they sell look identical to the ones the barber I talked about used to sell, which also was from Latvia. Interesting.
I can tell you from what I’ve read here and from my own usage, Riga Razors are held in very high esteem regardless of price.
 
I would definitely not advice getting a Riga Razor as your first straight razor, in fact, I wouldn't recommend paying such a high price for any straight razor when starting in the hobby... you can get into the hobby for a lot cheaper, if you end up liking the hobby then sure a beautiful piece like a Riga would make sense... You're in good hands with @JPO
 
I'd also like to throw in my 50 ore. Keep an eye out for razors from Eskilstuna. Yeah, I know the Norway/Sweden thing, but they make a superb razor. The steel tends to be quite hard which makes them take longer to get an edge, but they hold the edge well. Heljestrand is the more looked for brand, but I can't see much difference between any of the Eskilstuna manufacturers. I think I have razors from almost all of them.

The Rigarazors are good (I have two of them), but I would recommend holding off until you are sure using a straight is for you. They are also usually a wider blade 7/8 or 8/8 which I wouldn't recommend for learning with.

Vintage Solingen and Sheffield razors should be ok.

I would suggest starting with a 5/8 or 6/8 (15.5 - 19 mm wide). These are the easiest to control in my opinion.

Good luck.
 
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