I pulled out my old tub of terror by barrister and mann. this one is in the excelsior base. I did not get a particular good lather with it. At first I thought it was my brush that was the problem, then I tried another synthetic brush and same problem. most of my shave soaps lather rather easily from my croaps to hard soaps. I don't really use creams anymore. I have seen some say they have had issues with lathering barrister and mann, so I know it's not me. I don't like soaps where you have to really work to get a good lather. I also noticed that with barrister and mann and some other artisans like PAA use the ingriedient kokum butter and I wonder if this ingriedient is the reason why I get a gooey like lather with soaps like PAA and barrister and mann. PAA is easier to lather for me than barrister and mann. I wondering if anyone else has experienced a gooey like lather with either barrister or PAA or any other artisan that uses the ingriedient kokum butter?