is this razor repairable?

[atomb]

So I found this Red point with utica markings in the basement I believ it was picked up at a garage sale many years ago ands was wondering if it had seen its lasts days...What say you guys,heres a few pics.
Is it worth fixing?
Id like to use it as daily shaver.
what would need to be done to get it right and who could said work if it was feasable ans what kinda mulah are we talkin?

Thanks for info.

 

[RetroGrouch]

Not worth fixing, IMHO. By the time you got rid of the frown, there'd hardly be any blade left. Nice scales though.

 

[luvmysuper]

That is a horrible frown. Sorry for your loss.

+1 on don't toss the scales.

 

[global_dev]

That looks shave-ready, bro!!!

Those scales look just like the scales on razor on the BST without the red point logo http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=154908

and the key city blade here is looking for some scales
http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=155038

just a thought, why not trying to grind it flat and using it for practice honing, stropping??? You must have a grinding wheel or something in the garage...

 

[SRock]

that is a horrible frown. Sorry for your loss.

+1 on don't toss the scales.

+2

 

[professorchaos]

Nope. Save the scales, trash the blade.

 

[LarryAndro]

I believe the razor is quite salvageable. True, you will have to remove metal to take away the frown. But, you have plenty of blade left after that.

I bought a razor for just $5 the other day that had a big chip in it. Picture attached. (Forgive the blade appearance, as it is coated in vaseline.) After honing, it was a 3/8 blade. But, it shaves very well, especially under the nose and the neck creases.

Your blade has much more width left than my thin duckling.

Please don't trash the blade. Send it to me for free repair and honing. PM if interested.

 

[global_dev]

I believe the razor is quite salvageable. True, you will have to remove metal to take away the frown. But, you have plenty of blade left after that.

Your blade has much more width left than my thin duckling.

Please don't trash the blade. Send it to me for free repair and honing. PM if interested.

A-B, you need to send it quick and take up such a generous offer.

 

[Slash McCoy]

Holey crap! Unbelievable frown! That frown is one sad, sad frown! Of course it can be put back to use but you will be removing a LOT of steel! If you don't mind going through a lot of abrasive medium and putting in a lot of work, go for it. If you aren't up to the hours and $ spent to straighten the edge, at least save the scales and bolsters for another blade cause they are pretty nice. Myself I think I would go down to Harbor Freight and Tools for a couple of cheapo coarse diamond hones and go for it. Try not to hit the spine too hard but you WILL be removing SOME spine to keep the original bevel angle. It could be turned into a decent shaver with a lot of patience and hard work and it is a joy to look at. Well, apart from that pitiful frown... (
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[Joe Edson]

I believe the razor is quite salvageable. True, you will have to remove metal to take away the frown. But, you have plenty of blade left after that.

I bought a razor for just $5 the other day that had a big chip in it. Picture attached. (Forgive the blade appearance, as it is coated in vaseline.) After honing, it was a 3/8 blade. But, it shaves very well, especially under the nose and the neck creases.

Your blade has much more width left than my thin duckling.

Please don't trash the blade. Send it to me for free repair and honing. PM if interested.

Man, the generosity I continually see from this forum and especially from Larry amazes me. Larry, you truly are a great service to this community.

 

[W_B_K]

Larry, you rock. A very generous offer to save a nice old blade

 

[atomb]

wow i have not had the time to check the thread till this afternoon. Thanks fellas for the great advice. and thanks for the offer larry ,i think ill take you up on it. i have no real skills with honing and would hate to fully ruin the blade anymre than the original owner did. Thanks I sent u a pm larry.By he way I have never shaved with a straight.

 

[BillEllis]

Without Larry's most generous offer, I think I would have just put this one in the scrap bin. The scales even look to have had heat damage. No telling how deep that goes. It won't wash off, that's for sure. It'll take some sanding and, hopefully, it won't dig into the end cap when you do it.

Additionally, I'm gonna have to stand a little farther away from the notion that the blade will retain the dynamics to shave properly if it ground narrower by as much as it looks it needs. See, you have to keep a proper proportion of blade thickness and blade width. If the blade is too thick for the width, it will have an edge without enough angle on the bevel to give a comfortable shave. (It will be too stubby - which is ok for knives, but not razors.)

In general, you can multiply the width of the blade by .25 to come up with a blade thickness that is proportional for a good shaving bevel. The number you get will be in hundredths of an inch. I don't do metrics. If you guys check some of your newer razors before hone wear, I think you will see that this formula is a pretty close proportion. That's why those honkin' Filly's are a quarter inch thick, don't ya know.

That was the mistake I made on the very first razor I ever made. It was the standard 5/32nds thick steel I normally used for my knives. Well, at an original 8/8's width, I should have had a blade thickness of one quarter of an inch. 5/32nds is .156, a full .09/inch too thin so it became susceptible to microchipping because of the acute angle of the bevel. The remedy, of course is to put a total of .09/inch of electrical tape on the spine when it needed to be honed.

 

[mdunn]

I'm just scratching my head about how it got such an evil frown!

 

[RetroGrouch]

Without Larry's most generous offer, I think I would have just put this one in the scrap bin.

Exactly. I'm sure it could be made into a shaver again, but not a very pretty or valuable one. Not worth the cost of restoration.

Of course, if the cost is zero, that's a different ball game. Larry is clearly into it for the love of the game!



Mike

 

[GoVegan]

I believe the razor is quite salvageable. True, you will have to remove metal to take away the frown. But, you have plenty of blade left after that.

I bought a razor for just $5 the other day that had a big chip in it. Picture attached. (Forgive the blade appearance, as it is coated in vaseline.) After honing, it was a 3/8 blade. But, it shaves very well, especially under the nose and the neck creases.

Your blade has much more width left than my thin duckling.

Please don't trash the blade. Send it to me for free repair and honing. PM if interested.

That's a very cool and generous offer! If he takes you up on it, please post some pics of the restoration. I would love to see how it turns out.

 

[LarryAndro]

RetroGrouch is right. There is something very gratifying about helping someone get started in this world of straight razors.

 

[atomb]

Yes Thank you Larry although it was just sent, Your gesture regardless of the finished product was super cool. Ill need to "pass it forward".

 

[atomb]

Holy cow LarryAndro just sent me a new photograph of that old razor that had horrid frown below.

I cant wait to use it and have my first straight shave.
Larry I wasnt sure if it could be done, but you sir are truly talented.

Ill be posting my trials with the blade and will certainly need some advice soon.
The blade is in transit and Im super excited to see that ol redpoint.

Thank you for your great work and generosity Larry.
Ill be sending a gratituity no good deed should go unrewarded. Thank you

Can you guys believe this new picture? Im $%^% shocked
Im going to make sure he didnt photoshop it (just kiddin) .
A nice ending to my incredibly hot long tiring day.
thanks Larry and the B&B community

 

[Slash McCoy]

Very nice! I think the scales are very classy, and the discoloration just gives it a warm, antique, well-used but not misused look. That is one fine looking razor with a lot of character, and I would love to have it myself.

I WANT TO SEE A SHAVE REPORT!

Good job, Larry.