Is the makers of MWF aware....
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No problems here. Wonderful stuff.
Gareth the face latherer
Gareth the face latherer
Philistine!
Seriously though, in my bathroom, the MWF lathers itself. Its maybe no quite as.....miraculous as Tabac, but it is effortless. You're by no means the only person to have this problem. It is intriguing
That's a very good question.
We all ***** and moan about it on these boards, but it ain't going to change if the manufacturers don't know about the problem!
And there is a problem. There are far too many users (myself included) who cannot get this soap to work.
Water hardness? Other chemicals in the water? Phase of the moon? Brush type, temperature, humidity, longitude and latitude, whatever the cause, it plain does not work for some people. I have tried many soaps and MWF and Erasmic (tallow) are the only soaps I've ever had trouble lathering!
I say we write an email and point out the problem. They may tweak the formulation(!) to make it less fussy?
We all ***** and moan about it on these boards, but it ain't going to change if the manufacturers don't know about the problem!
And there is a problem. There are far too many users (myself included) who cannot get this soap to work.
Water hardness? Other chemicals in the water? Phase of the moon? Brush type, temperature, humidity, longitude and latitude, whatever the cause, it plain does not work for some people. I have tried many soaps and MWF and Erasmic (tallow) are the only soaps I've ever had trouble lathering!
I say we write an email and point out the problem. They may tweak the formulation(!) to make it less fussy?
Take a look here. There are a few people who chose MWF for the Month Long Soap Journey.
I say we write an email and point out the problem. They may tweak the formulation(!) to make it less fussy?
If that results in it being reformulated from tallow-based you'd better have a secret hideaway.
As much as it is mentioned on several of the shaving boards I would think they would have to know by now, most likely they are producing and making a profit just fine and know they can't please everyone no matter how much tweaking they do and there is always the possiblility they could mess it up for those that adore it, doing nothing is the least risky and no cost option and besides if some of us didn't like it then it also most likely wouldn't be getting talked about constantly therefore getting free mention constantly.
Rather then see them change what is a classic I would rather see them come out with another version of it but I am sure if they thought that would be easy to accomplish and profitable it would have been done by now.
Personally I can't get it to work very good at all except face lathering, only soap I have ever had that much issue with however I do think the fact that I have hard water contributes greatly to my difficulty, a classic case of ymmv as some other soaps that don't always get great reviews work great for me.
Rather then see them change what is a classic I would rather see them come out with another version of it but I am sure if they thought that would be easy to accomplish and profitable it would have been done by now.
Personally I can't get it to work very good at all except face lathering, only soap I have ever had that much issue with however I do think the fact that I have hard water contributes greatly to my difficulty, a classic case of ymmv as some other soaps that don't always get great reviews work great for me.
MWF has been around for over 100 years -- why would they change it now? I would think that this is the kind of product whose customers would resist any reformulation at all.
I get a great lather with MWF.
-Anthony the Bowl Latherer
-Anthony the Bowl Latherer
Not a problem with the soap. The problem is with the local water. Just what are they to do about that?
My water is as hard as well tempered steel and I had no trouble lathering MWF in a bowl the way I always do. I used a bit less water to start with as was suggested and I got some very respectable lather which would only have gotten better with time. Sadly the soap itself burned my sensitive skin. Changing the formulation of MWF would be a no no, unless they wanted to offer a version without the word "parfum" in the list of ingredients.
I'm also not sure it hasn't been reformulated at some time or another, since it has the words "titanium dioxide" on the label. I'm pretty sure that wasn't so common back in the day.
I'm also not sure it hasn't been reformulated at some time or another, since it has the words "titanium dioxide" on the label. I'm pretty sure that wasn't so common back in the day.
You know, it's nice to hear when someone else can lather MWF well in a bowl. Sometimes I read the posts on here about troubles with it and start to question myself and whether or not it actually works for me, so I have to use it for my next shave to be sure.
I have very hard water and I can get a mighty lather using MWF. I use a cheap badger brush and "coin-purse"lather I think you'd call it! I used to face lather it before I placed it on the bath shelf.
I don't worry too much about how much water is in the brush as if there is too much I will simply keep rubbing it over the soap until it's at the right consistency to transfer to skin!
I don't worry too much about how much water is in the brush as if there is too much I will simply keep rubbing it over the soap until it's at the right consistency to transfer to skin!
Couldn't agree more. MWF is an institution. It's like wondering if Harley Davidson could be convinced to go electric.
I find it takes more water to work but lathers great. I suspect its a water quality problem for many. Sometimes people will claim their water is very hard when in fact that's not the case at all. There are many issues you can have with water besides hardness. If it truly is a hardness problem you need to know how many grains of hardness you have.
My question is, how do you know that there are "far too many" users that have a problem? What is "far too many" anyway? Can that be accurately and consistently described as a percentage of all MWF users?
If you can't quantify "far too many" with reliable data, there is absolutely no reason for the manufacturer to change the formulation.
Sadly, message boards are not a reliable polling mechanism.
Please do not ask Mitchell's to change anything.
A re-formulation of such a fantastic product can never be a good thing.
There are plenty of other good soaps for those who have problems with or do not like MWF.
Giving Mitchell's - or any other manufacturer - an excuse to re-formulate a product and launch a "new and improved" version will most of the time result in bean counting and corner cutting instead of actual improvements.
Regards.
Jakob
A re-formulation of such a fantastic product can never be a good thing.
There are plenty of other good soaps for those who have problems with or do not like MWF.
Giving Mitchell's - or any other manufacturer - an excuse to re-formulate a product and launch a "new and improved" version will most of the time result in bean counting and corner cutting instead of actual improvements.
Regards.
Jakob
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That's a very good question.
We all ***** and moan about it on these boards, but it ain't going to change if the manufacturers don't know about the problem!
And there is a problem. There are far too many users (myself included) who cannot get this soap to work.
Water hardness? Other chemicals in the water? Phase of the moon? Brush type, temperature, humidity, longitude and latitude, whatever the cause, it plain does not work for some people. I have tried many soaps and MWF and Erasmic (tallow) are the only soaps I've ever had trouble lathering!
I say we write an email and point out the problem. They may tweak the formulation(!) to make it less fussy?
I think this is another plot in the making to change formulations and get rid of the tallow.
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