INOX on Coticules

[Raithskar]

Hey Gents,

I have two INOX Blades. A Friodur and a Puma No 63. I got a killer Edge on the Friodur, but not the Puma yet. Seems it took more work on the hones to get the blade to shave ready. How do you guys tend to approach this type of steel on stone?

Should I do more at bevel set, normal dilutions, and more on water than usual? I can get an edge on them, but just need a little guidance to get it dialed in consistently.

Thanks!

 

[gary haywood]

My puma inox was abogger so much that i never used it. Untill of latley i honed it up and it turned into an exallant shaver.. i did 30 half strokes each way all the way to finishing then finished as usaul , i used presure and fast half strokes , worked for me...

 

[fccexpert]

Stainless steel blades require a little more patience to hone, not because they are harder than carbon steel (they are usually somewhat softer), but because the metal tends to gall under abrasive stress. To counter this galling tendency you need to work carefully with less pressure and finer grits than you would typically use on a carbon steel blade. In addition, different stainless steels have different properties, and this probably accounts for the differences you are seeing between razors.

 

[Seraphim]

Stainless steel blades require a little more patience to hone, not because they are harder than carbon steel (they are usually somewhat softer), but because the metal tends to gall under abrasive stress. To counter this galling tendency you need to work carefully with less pressure and finer grits than you would typically use on a carbon steel blade. In addition, different stainless steels have different properties, and this probably accounts for the differences you are seeing between razors.

Unless, of coures you utilize Seraphim's UnnaturalHoneTM method. Use lapping film, and it will hone every damn razor you have equally well: carbon steel, stainless steel, high Rockwell carbon steel, Ceramic, and even Tungsten Carbide.

Stop lamenting the ineffectiveness of your expensive rock, and get busy sharpening!

Call now.

 

[kelebekcc]

Unless, of coures you utilize Seraphim's UnnaturalHoneTM method. Use lapping film, and it will hone every damn razor you have equally well: carbon steel, stainless steel, high Rockwell carbon steel, Ceramic, and even Tungsten Carbide.

even diamond with Diamond Film

 

[professorchaos]

Unless, of coures you utilize Seraphim's UnnaturalHoneTM method. Use lapping film, and it will hone every damn razor you have equally well: carbon steel, stainless steel, high Rockwell carbon steel, Ceramic, and even Tungsten Carbide.

Stop lamenting the ineffectiveness of your expensive rock, and get busy sharpening!

Call now.

Well maybe not quite ceramic, IIRC ...

 

[Seraphim]

Well maybe not quite ceramic, IIRC ...

Haw dare you!


I most certainly did hone up a ceramic blade to shave ready sharpness.

It is not the fault of the lapping film that the ceramic itself was not up to the task of effectively shaving whiskers.

I'll gladly send my Seraphim Seramix razor off to any of you coticle guys and see how far you can get with it....



Or you can try the Tungsten Challenge

You'll be using tears for your dilucot, as you watch the Tungsten grind away at your Belgian paperweight as it fails to make a dent in the blade.

 

[Wid]

The lapping films are the real deal, no doubt. They are also good for putting a final polish on my translucent black Arkansas

 

[Seraphim]

The lapping films are the real deal, no doubt. They are also good for putting a final polish on my translucent black Arkansas

We may have to collaborate on grinding a razor out of translucent black Arkansas, and hone it up on films.....

 

[Wid]

You supply the stone, I pay for the films.

 

[Seraphim]

You supply the stone, I pay for the films.

All we need is a slender slice off your stone, and I'll take care of the rest.....

 

[Wid]

All we need is a slender slice off your stone, and I'll take care of the rest.....

It's in the mail

 

[Krodor]

Subscribed!

 

[honed]

The stainless or semi-stainless called "inox" in razors are not much harder to hoen then carbon.
So for any good synthetic you shouldn't notice much difference.
However, the chromium carbides that these steels contains might just be on the harder side for a natural like a coticule, so you just might run into some problems.
I have always said to people that there is not much noticable difference between honing a carbon or a stainless razor, but perhaps it can be a difference if you are using naturals.
Synthetics no difference, naturals "maybe"

But you should still be able to get the job done on a coti, just takes some more time, depending on the specific alloys that are in the steel of that very razor.

 

[Seraphim]

The stainless or semi-stainless called "inox" in razors are not much harder to hoen then carbon.
So for any good synthetic you shouldn't notice much difference.
However, the chromium carbides that these steels contains might just be on the harder side for a natural like a coticule, so you just might run into some problems.
I have always said to people that there is not much noticable difference between honing a carbon or a stainless razor, but perhaps it can be a difference if you are using naturals.
Synthetics no difference, naturals "maybe"

But you should still be able to get the job done on a coti, just takes some more time, depending on the specific alloys that are in the steel of that very razor.

So, your conclusion is that synthetics are superior to naturals, isn't it?

Go on....say it!

 

[honed]

So, your conclusion is that synthetics are superior to naturals, isn't it?

Go on....say it!

YES! (of course)

 

[Raithskar]

Thanks guys.

Needless to say I got a wicked edge on the Puma last night off the COTICULE.

Take that lapping film guys! lol

 

[Obiwan]

What's this lapping film everyone keeps talking about?

 

[Doc226]

What's this lapping film everyone keeps talking about?

It's the stuff that gives nice results but lacks Mojo

 

[Seraphim]

Hey, I wasn't the guy complaining about honing stainless....


And don't count out lapping film mojo just yet. It's still rising