I really needed a Kanayama Pelican.......Honest

[holiday]

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Next to my Kanayama Llama for Rasurpur, 10000 model I believe
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Much thicker leather
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It feels stiffer than the Llama and feels a bit harder when stropping. Still not a huge amount of draw but certainly more than the Llama.

 

[holiday]

Couple more pics
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[azmark]

I don't think anyone here is going to judge you except maybe for not buying another one

 

[professorchaos]

Please stop the madness before I go in search of more strops. The 8 (or so) I currently have don't mitigate the need for another.

 

[azmark]

Please stop the madness before I go in search of more strops. The 8 (or so) I currently have don't mitigate the need for another.

You know you want it..c'mon

 

[professorchaos]

What I want - but don't need - is a Hand American Old Dog...

 

[Seraphim]

What I want - but don't need - is a Hand American Old Dog...

If you don't have it, then by definition you need it "tu fui ego eris".

 

[holiday]

Yea I need all sorts of cool stuff

 

[huntmol]

What are the differences between the Kanayama & the Pelican? Are the very similar or worlds apart?

I love my Kanayama 60,000. The only thing I'd change about it would be to make it 2.25 inches wide (don't worry, I never will, just a dream)

 

[holiday]

The Pelican is cowhide it was described as Latigo on the website I ordered from, not sure what distinguishes leather as Latigo? The Kanayama Llama is cordovan. The fabric is the same and the strops are the same width. Maybe I need to upgrade my Llama to a 60000

 

[SliceOfLife]

How many mm thick is that freak?

 

[pelicano]

What I want - but don't need - is a Hand American Old Dog...

Got one, love it, recommend it!

Go ahead professor.... ..you know you need it.

I know I need a Kanayama!

 

[holiday]

How many mm thick is that freak?

Im gonna go measure it now

 

[holiday]

How many mm thick is that freak?

A good 6mm thick . Not really sure why I bought it! It had been playing on my mind for a few weeks, when that happens you are best to give in, call it fate, or perhaps destiny.

 

[professorchaos]

Got one, love it, recommend it!

Go ahead professor.... ..you know you need it.

I know I need a Kanayama!

Stop it! How many straights does one person need? Now if someone to offer one in, say, Cape Buffalo hide I could surely find room for one more.

 

[Jabberwock]

Latigo is a type if leather with a fairly thick waxy layer on top - it is an easy and reliable way to produce a rugged (i.e. durable) strop with great draw. TOny Miller claims to have "invented" or "introduced" the use of latigo in strops a few years ago. But many (e.g. Keith de Grau of HandAmerican) look down on Latigo, because of the wax between the blade and the leather - you might as well have wax on paper or wood or nylon, according to their view. I'm not really sure whether this is just prejudicial purism, but I am rather inclined to agree with them - the feel of stropping on a kanayama llama or handamerican or other high-quality leather strop without any wax is superior to my mind - you can really *feel* what's happening between the blade and the leather.

Are you sure the Pelican is latigo? I'm surprised to hear that Kanayama, which I thought uses very traditional methods, would use latigo. If it is, I'd be msot curious to hear from anyone who has compared it to the U.S. latigos (like Tony Miller or SRD).

Cheers

 

[Scotchhound1969]

What I want - but don't need - is a Hand American Old Dog...

Mmm...i have all of HA's strops...you definately need that Old Dog my friend. They are great and i needed every one of them. Rofl! "Waves strops under nose"

 

[holiday]

Latigo is a type if leather with a fairly thick waxy layer on top - it is an easy and reliable way to produce a rugged (i.e. durable) strop with great draw. TOny Miller claims to have "invented" or "introduced" the use of latigo in strops a few years ago. But many (e.g. Keith de Grau of HandAmerican) look down on Latigo, because of the wax between the blade and the leather - you might as well have wax on paper or wood or nylon, according to their view. I'm not really sure whether this is just prejudicial purism, but I am rather inclined to agree with them - the feel of stropping on a kanayama llama or handamerican or other high-quality leather strop without any wax is superior to my mind - you can really *feel* what's happening between the blade and the leather.

Are you sure the Pelican is latigo? I'm surprised to hear that Kanayama, which I thought uses very traditional methods, would use latigo. If it is, I'd be msot curious to hear from anyone who has compared it to the U.S. latigos (like Tony Miller or SRD).

Cheers

The website I ordered from claimed it was latigo. But I just checked ZethLents post they are horsehide but not cordovan.
I'm sorry for posting mis-information, I'm glad you asked the question. I feel I have done an injustice to Konayama and his strop
Maybe I should give him some more of my custom to make up for it.

 

[huntmol]

Latigo is a type if leather with a fairly thick waxy layer on top - it is an easy and reliable way to produce a rugged (i.e. durable) strop with great draw. TOny Miller claims to have "invented" or "introduced" the use of latigo in strops a few years ago. But many (e.g. Keith de Grau of HandAmerican) look down on Latigo, because of the wax between the blade and the leather - you might as well have wax on paper or wood or nylon, according to their view. I'm not really sure whether this is just prejudicial purism, but I am rather inclined to agree with them - the feel of stropping on a kanayama llama or handamerican or other high-quality leather strop without any wax is superior to my mind - you can really *feel* what's happening between the blade and the leather.

Great post, I gotta give +1 to this

I loved my TM strops, they were fantastic and incredibly well made.
However, after a while I really didn't love the feel of stropping on latigo. It's just my personal preference, but it did feel just as you described - like I was stropping on a waxy layer above the leather.

 

[professorchaos]

Mmm...i have all of HA's strops...you definately need that Old Dog my friend. They are great and i needed every one of them. Rofl! "Waves strops under nose"

Damn! Now I'll have to stop buying expensive colognes for a while!