I “needed a new Razor.. Osprey incoming

[No1Up]

Anyone experience the drag effect with the machined ?

I don’t have mine yet, but polished finish doesn’t seem like it would help with “drag” if nothing else the lather is probably a little dry if it’s “dragging”. Now, the Henson does drag but only because the surface area is MUCH larger. I’ll see for myself come Monday.

 

[JL 52]

Here we are indeed.. what did you get? Get the stand? You HAVE to have the stand.. you NEED it.

I opted for the machined stainless steel version. I liked the look of the machined over the polished, time will tell if it has too much friction and drags.

I had the stand sitting in my shopping cart but removed it at the very last minute. I figured I personally would be drying it well and then storing it back in its box.

 

[No1Up]

I opted for the machined stainless steel version. I liked the look of the machined over the polished, time will tell if it has too much friction and drags.

I had the stand sitting in my shopping cart but removed it at the very last minute. I figured I personally would be drying it well and then storing it back in its box.

Am I to understand this beautiful marvel of shaving that brings together innovation and art, will be stored in a box?

 

[JL 52]

Am I to understand this beautiful marvel of shaving that brings together innovation and art, will be stored in a box?

My wife doesn’t exactly share in my appreciation for the arts

 

[No1Up]

My wife doesn’t exactly share in my appreciation for the arts

I mean it’s like throwing the Mona Lisa in the closet..

 

[Fiddler]

Man, I’m not sure about the “polished” look. To me, JUST my opinion. It looks.. “cheap” in that so many $15 - $20 razors out there with chrome finish on pot metal.

I own a number of polished Ti razors and they look great...never cheap....and they certainly don't come cheap.

I prefer polished razors due to the smoothness with which you can drag them over the face.

However, they say that a polished finish will present a slightly different geometry than a machined finish of the same razor.
(Because polishing removes metal and can affect tolerances and shaving characteristics.)

I wonder if anyone who has used both machined and polished Ospreys can comment...I know it's hard to find someone with these specific qualifications... but no harm putting it out there

 

[helicopter]

I own a number of polished Ti razors and they look great...never cheap....and they certainly don't come cheap.

I prefer polished razors due to the smoothness with which you can drag them over the face.

However, they say that a polished finish will present a slightly different geometry than a machined finish of the same razor.
(Because polishing removes metal and can affect tolerances and shaving characteristics.)

I wonder if anyone who has used both machined and polished Ospreys can comment...I know it's hard to find someone with these specific qualifications... but no harm putting it out there

I haven't, but I know the Blackbirds get a different CNC program for the machined finish to give it a certain look, and I would expect that the Osprey program for polished finish accounts for what is expected to be removed in the polishing procedure.

Edit: I do have a bead blasted Blackbird Ti and a polished Batch 001 bronze Blackbird, and there is no noticeable difference in geometry whatsoever. Although I can say the same about a brass one that I sent to Backroads Gold for gold plating. The polished finishes and different alloys feel different but they don't change how the blade hits my face.

I don't have any issues with the bead blasted BB finish.

 

[No1Up]

I own a number of polished Ti razors and they look great...never cheap....and they certainly don't come cheap.

I prefer polished razors due to the smoothness with which you can drag them over the face.

However, they say that a polished finish will present a slightly different geometry than a machined finish of the same razor.
(Because polishing removes metal and can affect tolerances and shaving characteristics.)

I wonder if anyone who has used both machined and polished Ospreys can comment...I know it's hard to find someone with these specific qualifications... but no harm putting it out there

I believe shane said there’s no difference in shaves to him between both.

 

[Blackland Razors]

However, they say that a polished finish will present a slightly different geometry than a machined finish of the same razor.
(Because polishing removes metal and can affect tolerances and shaving characteristics.)

We try very hard to preserve all the shave-critical dimensions by not removing much material at all. Any surface that touches the blade is lightly polished to preserve geometry while non-critical surfaces are polished more aggressively to achieve a more mirrorlike result. This mean shave-critical surfaces (top of the base plate, for example) are shiny, but will show some machine marks.

I believe shane said there’s no difference in shaves to him between both.

That's correct. But lots of customers feel differently and I can't say they're wrong. One thing I've come to understand is that your experiences tend to match your preconceived notion. So if you think that polished will glide better or that the machined finish is going to drag, you'll probably find that to be the case. For those customers, I recommend getting polished.

 

[helicopter]

I would say they feel different, but I have not experienced any sort of gliding sliding, dragging skipping spectrum people often mention. Skin and soaps probably have something to do with it. I definitely don't have a preference on feel.

For my purposes, the only aspect of finishes that matters is appearance. I definitely prefer a polished finish on gold, nickel, brass, bronze, rhodium, or platinum. On stainless, they all look alright to me. On Titanium, I probably have a slight preference for tumbled, machined, and bead blasted finishes, but I still like the polished ones.

 

[newguy1978]

Well that’s my first blackland vector ordered. I ended up going for a satin vector light and hopefully it will arrive in Scotland soon. I just couldn’t justify the stand.

 

[No1Up]

We try very hard to preserve all the shave-critical dimensions by not removing much material at all. Any surface that touches the blade is lightly polished to preserve geometry while non-critical surfaces are polished more aggressively to achieve a more mirrorlike result. This mean shave-critical surfaces (top of the base plate, for example) are shiny, but will show some machine marks.



That's correct. But lots of customers feel differently and I can't say they're wrong. One thing I've come to understand is that your experiences tend to match your preconceived notion. So if you think that polished will glide better or that the machined finish is going to drag, you'll probably find that to be the case. For those customers, I recommend getting polished.

Will there ever be a tumbled or blasted finish for the Osprey?

 

[Blackland Razors]

Will there ever be a tumbled or blasted finish for the Osprey?

I'm not sure. Probably not as a standard offering, but we can easily provide that as a custom request. Just shoot us an email if/when you're going to order and we can help out.

 

[No1Up]

I'm not sure. Probably not as a standard offering, but we can easily provide that as a custom request. Just shoot us an email if/when you're going to order and we can help out.

Oh man.. you already shipped mine!

 

[ShadowShaver86]

@Blackland Razors Shane, is there anyway to make the adjustment knob on the machined osprey easier to adjust/loosen during our shaves? as i've heard from others, that it seems very hard to get it all the way up to other shave levels.

 

[Blackland Razors]

@Blackland Razors Shane, is there anyway to make the adjustment knob on the machined osprey easier to adjust/loosen during our shaves? as i've heard from others, that it seems very hard to get it all the way up to other shave levels.

Osprey stainless is very easy to access all shave levels at any time. Titanium is a little harder due to the added friction, but still doable.

 

[No1Up]

I'm not sure. Probably not as a standard offering, but we can easily provide that as a custom request. Just shoot us an email if/when you're going to order and we can help out.

Shane, I have a question for you that might be very beneficial for some here.

So for sure there is a difference between SS and Ti Blacklbird when it comes to the shaving experience.

In your opinion, does the Osprey follow the same pattern? Is the Ti noticeable over the SS version?

 

[Blackland Razors]

Shane, I have a question for you that might be very beneficial for some here.

So for sure there is a difference between SS and Ti Blacklbird when it comes to the shaving experience.

In your opinion, does the Osprey follow the same pattern? Is the Ti noticeable over the SS version?

Titanium is transformative on the Blackbird and makes it almost an entirely different razor. The Osprey Ti is distinct from the Osprey SS, but the difference is less transformative than it is for the Blackbird.

 

[No1Up]

You have no idea how glad I am to hear that because I have the titanium in my cart I can rest easy now..

 

[wetshaver233]

Unless a razor is polished by someone who doesn't really know what he's doing and he takes more metal than he should have rather than being done by a professional, I doubt that there is going to be any noticable difference before and after aside from the way the polished metal feels on the face compared to a matte or machined finish.

I've seen people making such claims, especially when it comes to replating vintage razors due to the fact that the polishing combined with a thicker layer of plating compared to the old and thin one would change the geometry of the razor and therefore change the way it originally shave. While it's definitely possible for such scenario to occur expecially if it's not done properly, I remain sceptical about this theory.