and then there is the whole shoulder, no shoulder, stabilizer, no satbilizer thing... I think no shoulder or stabilizer for me...Yeah, I have a Dovo Astrale full size which is 1/2 hollow. And I like it, but the others I have are full hollow which I like better. Damn--now I have to get extra hollow which I haven't tried to see if that is even better than full hollow...![]()