Group Buy: Shiro Mikawa Nagura

[TstebinsB]

This is the official group buy thread for Shiro Mikawa Nagura. I will be offering Botan, Tenjou, Mejiro, and Koma stones.

We can buy three-stone sets of the Botan, Tenjou, and Mejiro; each stone is 70-90 grams. That's the quickest and cheapest option. You can buy each individually if there's a specific weight that you want but that will raise the total price. The Koma is the most expensive stone and always sold individually. There is no fixed price for stones purchased separately; it's based on weight.

Post which stones you want and whether you're interested in a set or individual stones. If you're interested in individual stones, post whether you want a 100-gram stone or heavier. We'll go from there.

For more information on these stones, read this post.

Prices before shipping:
Three-stone set = 2,000 yen
100-gram Koma = 3150+ yen
100-gram Mejiro = 1260+ yen
100-gram Tenjou = 1050+ yen
100-gram Botan = 1260+ yen

Three-stone set
1. danjared
2. Noswad
3. professorchaos
4. pelicano
5. Kairen X 2

100-gram Koma
1. danjared
2. Kairen
3. Noswad
4. RetroGrouch
5. MajorBurnz
6. mainaman
7. Woodash
8. pelicano

100-gram Mejiro
1. heirkb
2. Woodash

100-gram Botan
1. RetroGrouch

 

[joshmpdx]

Telly, will these be useful on the Kiita stones you sold last year?

 

[danjared]

I'd like a koma and one of the three stone sets.

 

[superbleu]

I'm in for a Koma if you can get them. Thanks Telly.

 

[TstebinsB]

Telly, will these be useful on the Kiita stones you sold last year?

Yes. These nagura were approved by Dr. Asano, making them genuine nagura to be used specifically on natural Japanese whetstones. However, you don't need them. A tomonagura (or DMT 1200) is all that you need as far as building slurry for your final finishing. These nagura stones are for doing more advanced honing.

 

[Noswad]

I'd like a koma and one of the three stone sets.

+1

Sign me up for this as well.

 

[professorchaos]

Sign me up for a three piece set.

To help the gents who might be interested but are not sure, perhaps you can explain the high-level differences between the different nagura.

 

[TstebinsB]

Sign me up for a three piece set.

To help the gents who might be interested but are not sure, perhaps you can explain the high-level differences between the different nagura.

There are different grades of each stone. The grade is based purely on how rare it is. The striped nagura are the rarest and therefore, the most expensive. One grade of genuine Koma isn't better than another grade of genuine Koma, for example.

Some say that you don't need both the Mejiro and Tenjou. Use one of the two. Others say that each has its proper use. I've never used anything coarser than the Mejiro so I can't say whether the Tenjou is worth it.

Also, I can't really tell you the grit of a given nagura. Many people speculate but I'd hate to have people buy something off of my speculation. All I know is the order of fineness.

Read this post for more information.

 

[heirkb]

Thanks for running this group buy Telly. Please put me down for a 100 g Mejiro.

By the way, do you still have any high quality japanese natural hones for sale?

 

[RetroGrouch]

Thanks, Telly!

I'll take a 100g Koma and a 100g Botan.

Mike

 

[MajorBurnz]

Hey Telly,

I'd spring for a 100 g Koma.

 

[pelicano]

Since I'm still in honing experimentation stage, I'll be happy to take one of each.

Thanks Telly,

 

[mainaman]

I'll take a Koma nagura, 100g

 

[TstebinsB]

By the way, do you still have any high quality japanese natural hones for sale?

Sorry. I sold all of my extra hones.

Since I'm still in honing experimentation stage, I'll be happy to take one of each.

Thanks Telly,

Is that one of each in 100 grams or the three-stone set and one 100-gram Koma?

 

[Woodash]

100g Koma and
100g Mejiro

if available.
Thanks!

 

[pelicano]

Is that one of each in 100 grams or the three-stone set and one 100-gram Koma?

A three stone set and a Koma.

 

[TstebinsB]

This is the cutoff for round 1. If more people are interested, I'll do another run.

 

[professorchaos]

There are different grades of each stone. The grade is based purely on how rare it is. The striped nagura are the rarest and therefore, the most expensive. One grade of genuine Koma isn't better than another grade of genuine Koma, for example.

Some say that you don't need both the Mejiro and Tenjou. Use one of the two. Others say that each has its proper use. I've never used anything coarser than the Mejiro so I can't say whether the Tenjou is worth it.

Also, I can't really tell you the grit of a given nagura. Many people speculate but I'd hate to have people buy something off of my speculation. All I know is the order of fineness.

Read this post for more information.

Thanks. That and the post you linked to resolved a few less than clear ideas I was tangling with.

 

[huntmol]

I was reading and re-reading this post, and I can't figure out why anyone would want a Kona if the Mejiro is both the final preparation for the finishing stage and the best for razors...

 

[TstebinsB]

I was reading and re-reading this post, and I can't figure out why anyone would want a Kona if the Mejiro is both the final preparation for the finishing stage and the best for razors...

It's subjective. While many Japanese people recommend the Mejiro, the Koma is finer and presumably, does a better job at preparing your edge for the tomonagura.

To my knowledge, the Japanese don't use any stones above JIS #8000 unless it's the final finishing stone. Let's say you have a Naniwa 10K (Mejiro) and a Shapton GlassStone 16K (Koma). (Those aren't the actual grits of the nagura. I'm using them for my illustration.) The Japanese recommendation would be to go from the Naniwa 10K to the Nakayama and let that be the end of it. That would work beautifully. However, some people will like going to the Shapton 16K in between the Naniwa and Nakayama. Is it necessary? No. Is that what most Japanese would do? No. Does it still work? Yes.