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Greencult 2.II Review - The Goldilocks Specs

The Greencult 2.0 with plate II has a blade gap of 0.65mm and a blade exposure of 0.10mm, very similar to the Blackland Blackbird with a gap of 0.58mm and exposure of 0.10mm. Something magical happens when these two specifications are combined. The narrow gap reduces the risk of nicks while the elongated exposure delivers high efficiency. The result is a razor which is comfortable, albeit with strong blade feel, which is easy-to-use and highly efficient.

A third factor which makes the GC2.0 and Blackbird so efficient is strong blade clamping, although how they achieve it is very different. Blade clamping reduces blade flex which can cause chatter (skipping) and improves performance.

The Blackbird is a “Blade Bender”. It achieves blade rigidity by clamping the blade in the middle of the plate near the peak of the top cap then steeply bending the blade to each side, creating a sharp angle of attack and distributing the force on the edge over the full expanse of the blade.

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The GC 2.II is an “Edge Clamper”. It firmly clamps the entire width of the blade very close to each edge, leaving only minimal blade reveal.

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Blade Bending is more common although difficult to do effectively and achieve high blade rigidity. Most mass market razors employ blade-blending, and to achieve lower costs use molten zinc alloy (zamak) which is die-cast.

In order: Blackbird (Ti), Muhle Rocca R94 (SS), Merkur 38B (zamak)
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To effectively employ Edge Clamping the razor needs more precise dimensions than can be achieved by die-casting, and instead relies on a CNC process where the parts are carved from solid blocks of metal, usually alloys of aluminum, copper, bronze, brass, steel, or titanium, all of which are more costly than zamak.

In order: Tatara Masamune Nodachi (Ti), Karve Overlander (SS), GC2.II (SS)
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In addition, the blade needs to be clamped close its edge, which minimizes blade reveal as seen from the top, which also controls flex. The GC2.0 has both strong clamping and minimal reveal, which keeps blade flex low making it feel extremely sure-footed, particularly when going against the grain in tough spots like the soul patch or upper lip.

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My experience is that the denser and stronger the material the more it aids in clamping. The GC2.II is made from 303 Stainless Steel using a CNC process and the blade clamping is superlative. The GC2.0 is also a bit of a tank at 126 grams. Although some find the handle to be unattractive and short at only 88mm, I personally find it long enough and like its 13.9mm girth and modern design. One interesting feature is the embedded plastic washer inside the top of the handle which removes any concerns of scratching the base plate.

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My review is based solely on the II Plate, but three additional plates are offered with varying degrees of efficiency, and all four have open comb variations available.

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In many ways I view the GC2.0 as the quintessential razor. It’s made of quality materials, to exacting standards, with flexible features, modern good-looks, and at the very affordable price of around US$110. It’s strange to me that although it came out in 2022 it doesn’t get more representation from shavers in the United States on the shaving forums. Maybe it’s because it hails from Austria, from a small family run machine shop in Goetzis, Vrarlberg. It’s not due to distribution, because although Greencult operates its own portal, Fairschenkt.at, the razors are also sold in the States through Italianbarber.com and therazorcompany.com. Regardless, the GC2.0 feels like the forgotten stepchild of the shaving community. But it shouldn’t be. It’s a hidden gem.

Here's how it scores relative to the other razors in my line-up:
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Iridian

Cool and slimy
Good ideas and comparisons. Will have to read again tomorrow, here it is already close to midnight and I already watched a documentary about a German who got captured by Apaches as kid and then fought with them and and the Comanche till the very end of Indian resistance against Army and Texas Rangers. Quite a sad story with lots of dead buffalo and horses being shot, besides the Indians.

I would love the GC2 a lot more if it wouldn't be matte and the handle is also absolutely not to my liking. The integrated washer is indeed a very cool design, it also shaves very good. I use the IV plate, SB, OC was not available when I bought it.

Wonder if you would like Lupos or SuperSlants. Also lots of interesting designs from Yaqi and DSCosmetic besides their clones. Yates and Aylsworth are notably absent, but that's something you can try in future! :)
 
The Greencult 2.0 with plate II has a blade gap of 0.65mm and a blade exposure of 0.10mm, very similar to the Blackland Blackbird with a gap of 0.58mm and exposure of 0.10mm. Something magical happens when these two specifications are combined. The narrow gap reduces the risk of nicks while the elongated exposure delivers high efficiency. The result is a razor which is comfortable, albeit with strong blade feel, which is easy-to-use and highly efficient.

A third factor which makes the GC2.0 and Blackbird so efficient is strong blade clamping, although how they achieve it is very different. Blade clamping reduces blade flex which can cause chatter (skipping) and improves performance.

The Blackbird is a “Blade Bender”. It achieves blade rigidity by clamping the blade in the middle of the plate near the peak of the top cap then steeply bending the blade to each side, creating a sharp angle of attack and distributing the force on the edge over the full expanse of the blade.

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The GC 2.II is an “Edge Clamper”. It firmly clamps the entire width of the blade very close to each edge, leaving only minimal blade reveal.

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Blade Bending is more common although difficult to do effectively and achieve high blade rigidity. Most mass market razors employ blade-blending, and to achieve lower costs use molten zinc alloy (zamak) which is die-cast.

In order: Blackbird (Ti), Muhle Rocca R94 (SS), Merkur 38B (zamak)
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To effectively employ Edge Clamping the razor needs more precise dimensions than can be achieved by die-casting, and instead relies on a CNC process where the parts are carved from solid blocks of metal, usually alloys of aluminum, copper, bronze, brass, steel, or titanium, all of which are more costly than zamak.

In order: Tatara Masamune Nodachi (Ti), Karve Overlander (SS), GC2.II (SS)
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In addition, the blade needs to be clamped close its edge, which minimizes blade reveal as seen from the top, which also controls flex. The GC2.0 has both strong clamping and minimal reveal, which keeps blade flex low making it feel extremely sure-footed, particularly when going against the grain in tough spots like the soul patch or upper lip.

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My experience is that the denser and stronger the material the more it aids in clamping. The GC2.II is made from 303 Stainless Steel using a CNC process and the blade clamping is superlative. The GC2.0 is also a bit of a tank at 126 grams. Although some find the handle to be unattractive and short at only 88mm, I personally find it long enough and like its 13.9mm girth and modern design. One interesting feature is the embedded plastic washer inside the top of the handle which removes any concerns of scratching the base plate.

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My review is based solely on the II Plate, but three additional plates are offered with varying degrees of efficiency, and all four have open comb variations available.

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In many ways I view the GC2.0 as the quintessential razor. It’s made of quality materials, to exacting standards, with flexible features, modern good-looks, and at the very affordable price of around US$110. It’s strange to me that although it came out in 2022 it doesn’t get more representation from shavers in the United States on the shaving forums. Maybe it’s because it hails from Austria, from a small family run machine shop in Goetzis, Vrarlberg. It’s not due to distribution, because although Greencult operates its own portal, Fairschenkt.at, the razors are also sold in the States through Italianbarber.com and therazorcompany.com. Regardless, the GC2.0 feels like the forgotten stepchild of the shaving community. But it shouldn’t be. It’s a hidden gem.

Here's how it scores relative to the other razors in my line-up:
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Wonderful review, congratulations dear @Teutonblade!
I've never had the opportunity to use the Blackbird, but the Greencult 2.0 is my favorite razor and the one I compare all the others in my den to. I usually use the plate II, but my best shave is when I have a three-day beard, I use the plate IV.

Cheers!
❤️🪒
 
Wonderful review, congratulations dear @Teutonblade!
I've never had the opportunity to use the Blackbird, but the Greencult 2.0 is my favorite razor and the one I compare all the others in my den to. I usually use the plate II, but my best shave is when I have a three-day beard, I use the plate IV.

Cheers!
❤️🪒
Thank you Beto! Wow, plate IV. You need to be an experienced shaver to handle that. You’re a braver man than me!
 
The Blackbird is a “Blade Bender”. It achieves blade rigidity by clamping the blade in the middle of the plate near the peak of the top cap then steeply bending the blade to each side, creating a sharp angle of attack and distributing the force on the edge over the full expanse of the blade.
Let's not mix bending and clamping as these are different things.

On the first photo it is clearly seen that the Blackbird has almost no clamping. There are only two small clamping points where the draining channel on the cap ends. It relies mostly on strong bending for ridigity.
The Green cult 2.0 is different as the clamping area is bigger. It has good bending too.
 
Good ideas and comparisons. Will have to read again tomorrow, here it is already close to midnight and I already watched a documentary about a German who got captured by Apaches as kid and then fought with them and and the Comanche till the very end of Indian resistance against Army and Texas Rangers. Quite a sad story with lots of dead buffalo and horses being shot, besides the Indians.

I would love the GC2 a lot more if it wouldn't be matte and the handle is also absolutely not to my liking. The integrated washer is indeed a very cool design, it also shaves very good. I use the IV plate, SB, OC was not available when I bought it.

Wonder if you would like Lupos or SuperSlants. Also lots of interesting designs from Yaqi and DSCosmetic besides their clones. Yates and Aylsworth are notably absent, but that's something you can try in future! :)
Thank you for the feedback. Yates and Aylsworth are both on my radar!
 
Let's not mix bending and clamping as these are different things.

On the first photo it is clearly seen that the Blackbird has almost no clamping. There are only two small clamping points where the draining channel on the cap ends. It relies mostly on strong bending for ridigity.
The Green cult 2.0 is different as the clamping area is bigger. It has good bending too.
The distinction I am making is between “edge” clamping and blade bending. All razors clamp the blade somewhere otherwise they fall out of the razor.
 
Thank you Beto! Wow, plate IV. You need to be an experienced shaver to handle that. You’re a braver man than me!
Thank you very much, my dear friend. The Plate IV is very efficient, but it is not too aggressive, in the same sense that the R41 is. I confess that it is the one that gives me the most pleasurable shave, almost a spiritual experience. Sometimes I have the impression that it takes part of my old soul with each shave…

Have a great weekend, my dear friend!
❤️🪒
 
Thank you very much, my dear friend. The Plate IV is very efficient, but it is not too aggressive, in the same sense that the R41 is. I confess that it is the one that gives me the most pleasurable shave, almost a spiritual experience. Sometimes I have the impression that it takes part of my old soul with each shave…

Have a great weekend, my dear friend!
❤️🪒
It looks like a IV plate is in my not too distant future. 😃
 
I have the GC 2.0 and while it is a very good razor, I find it on the heavy and bulky side. I much prefer my Blackbird. When I do use the GC plate 3 is my go to. For some reason I find it more comfortable than plate 2. It is a very well made razor and a good value for the price.
 
The Blackbird has rigidity because it is designed to be a shallow shaver and directs the force into the plane of the blade and not orthogonal to it, as Shane says in this video. Bending does not give the rigidity, as you can see by how much he flexes the blade.

 
Allow me to disagree. I watched this video twice and didn't believe a word of it. There's simply no way IMO to defy the laws of physics. Blackland Blackbird has absolutely lousy blade clamping and no amount of spinning will change this fact. To point out excessive blade flex with downward pressure on the blade edge and then say that this design is OK because "that's not how we shave" is preposterous, again IMO. The simple fact is that Blackbird has no other option but to suffer from excessive blade chatter. I don't own it and will never buy it because I've been burned by this design choice twice already. There are many razors with lousy blade clamping and excessive blade chatter and I own two: Merkur 38C Barber Pole and 2023 Rocnel Elite. I find both of them exceptionally uncomfortable despite the high level of efficiency. So, I've decided not to buy another razor with the same flaw. There are many other razors (again IMO) that are just as efficient but much more comfortable.

The very first image (side view close-up of Blackbird) the OP posted in this thread is telling. It's a design that sucks in my book. I believe this design is much easier to execute than a design that clamps the blade firmly along the entire edge such as Tatara, Timeless, Athena, and others. But, but, there are many forum members who absolutely admire the Blackbird and wouldn't swap it for any other razor. They claim it's the best razor they ever owned and nothing else comes even close. So, who am I to disagree with both the Blackland design team and forum members who are convinced that Blackbird is the one and only razor?

As many forum members have pointed out in numerous posts, YMMV. It's so true. What's best in the world for some could very well be the worst for others. For me, it's important to eliminate blade chatter. That's what makes many vintage Gillette twist-to-open razors so comfortable to use. The silo doors clamp down hard on the blade along the entire length and leave only a small section of the blade exposed. This design goal has been replicated by several modern artisan razor designers I mentioned previously. I should also mention that Blackland's latest design, the adjustable Osprey, states blade chatter elimination as an explicit design goal. It's the polar opposite of Blackbird design. Can both be right at the same time? It's possible but I'm firmly in the zero-blade chatter camp, which is why I mentioned in my opening paragraph that I didn't believe a word in that Blackland video.

Please note that I didn't mean to provoke or trigger anyone with my post. I realize that personal preferences play a key role in which razors people choose. All I wanted to do is state my own preference based on more than 30 years of wet shaving and more than 100 razors in my collection.
 
The Blackbird has rigidity because it is designed to be a shallow shaver and directs the force into the plane of the blade and not orthogonal to it, as Shane says in this video. Bending does not give the rigidity, as you can see by how much he flexes the blade.

You clearly did not watch the video carefully nor did you read what I wrote. Shane explicitly says the Blackbird’s blade rigidity is achieved through three methods: clamping the blade from the top close to the edge, having a sharp bend, and having a shaving angle which distributes the force back through the blade, all of which I mentioned.

Blades flex in two directions. Although the Blackbird’s design allows the blade to flex towards the plate, it is prevented from flexing towards the top cap. And as Shane points out, this is the direction which matters, and contrary to the comments from @Shargan8 is IMO extremely effective at minimizing chatter.
 

Iridian

Cool and slimy
For me, it's important to eliminate blade chatter.
Can both be right at the same time? It's possible but I'm firmly in the zero-blade chatter camp,
Maybe. The question is rather can blade chatter be eliminated by clamping alone. The Blackbird shaves are a rather shallow angle (some shave steep with it but I really can't recommend that, it is rather made for a shallow angle) and it WORKS wonderfully with that angle. So it doesn't chatter much if at all, but you must use it shallow and not extremely steep.

While I also rather have firm blade clamping, I was often surprised how extremely well razors shave that don't follow that design philosophy. Blackland has a return policy, which is still not quite as easy to do for non-Americans. I can tell you, I don't regret buying my Blackbird. Give it a chance. My absolute favorites are still Superslants and Timeless Slim, but the Blackbird is among the best razors for sure.
 

Guido75

Is it swell time?
Great information and review Lee! The GC2.II is an excellent razor that can easily rival with higher end razors. I find the Blackbird and GC2.II to be extremely similar. To the point that the Blackbird is still the first candidate to go BST if I decide to reduce.

I would love the GC2 a lot more if it wouldn't be matte and the handle is also absolutely not to my liking.
I hand polished mine and swapped the handle for a sleeker one (Razorine). Looks amazing now. I think so at least.

 
Great information and review Lee! The GC2.II is an excellent razor that can easily rival with higher end razors. I find the Blackbird and GC2.II to be extremely similar. To the point that the Blackbird is still the first candidate to go BST if I decide to reduce.


I hand polished mine and swapped the handle for a sleeker one (Razorine). Looks amazing now. I think so at least.

Thanks Guido! Amazing handle. Looks fantastic! I should have mentioned in the review that the head threading is standard M5 so it’s compatible with many handles.
 
Matte finish and a bulky head are the reasons why I wouldn't buy a GC razor. I'm not saying that because of those qualities the GC or any other razor would not perform well, but as good as they are, a polished and much more nimble razors just ''feel'' right for me ever since I've tried a couple of titanium razors. Now anything above 90 ish grams or with large and bulky heads feels clumsy and not appealing for me and the shaves are just not as enjoyable regardless of how good the razor performs.
 
You clearly did not watch the video carefully nor did you read what I wrote. Shane explicitly says the Blackbird’s blade rigidity is achieved through three methods: clamping the blade from the top close to the edge, having a sharp bend, and having a shaving angle which distributes the force back through the blade, all of which I mentioned.

Blades flex in two directions. Although the Blackbird’s design allows the blade to flex towards the plate, it is prevented from flexing towards the top cap. And as Shane points out, this is the direction which matters, and contrary to the comments from @Shargan8 is IMO extremely effective at minimizing chatter.

You're got most of it, @Teutonblade. The blade rigidity that the Blackbird has is mainly from directing the force into the plane of the blade, the support from the top cap, and the clamping at the apex. The bend itself doesn't cause rigidity, blades are floppy. What the bend does is two things. First, it holds the blade against the top cap to provide good support against blade flex perpendicular to the blade plane in the direction of the cap. Second, the bend helps direct the force in the plane of the blade to the solid top cap and clamping point.

I thought @Blackland Razors had another video where they explain this as well. Maybe Shane would like to jump in, but maybe he would prefer to let us armchair designers hash it out ourselves. :)
 
You're got most of it, @Teutonblade. The blade rigidity that the Blackbird has is mainly from directing the force into the plane of the blade, the support from the top cap, and the clamping at the apex. The bend itself doesn't cause rigidity, blades are floppy. What the bend does is two things. First, it holds the blade against the top cap to provide good support against blade flex perpendicular to the blade plane in the direction of the cap. Second, the bend helps direct the force in the plane of the blade to the solid top cap and clamping point.

I thought @Blackland Razors had another video where they explain this as well. Maybe Shane would like to jump in, but maybe he would prefer to let us armchair designers hash it out ourselves. :)
I’ll say it again, you clearly didn’t read my review carefully.
 
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