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I’m interested in trying the Graham’s 10 vs the 20.
Good wines to cellar?
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Turns out wine.com will ship to the Dollar General that is 4.6 miles down the road from me. Uh oh.....
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I downloaded their app, which is pretty cool, and tried to finish my order with it. It didn’t seem to like my credit card which was a debit card and it wouldn’t take it. I called them to complete the order and the lady gave me a 20% off discount. So I think I’ll probably call to finish the order each time.
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Ok, I need some thoughts. These are a few I was looking at for longer term cellaring.
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What do you think?
Futures can be an iffy proposal, in my humble opinion... it depends on what kind of selection you can get locally, and how good you feel about the vintage. Some of the time you’ll actually be able to buy the given vintage when it comes available for retail sale for cheaper than what the futures were, and then you obviously haven’t put that chunk of make up out for however long ahead of time either.
I haven’t read up on the last couple vintages in Bordeaux so I can’t speak to the ‘19 futures specifically. But I’d also look at local wine shops if you have any good ones because a lot of the time they will have better futures options than somewhere like wine.com (and maybe a Bordeaux specialist that can provide some helpful info).
They are fun to buy and look forward to though! I still have some ‘05’s that I bought as futures that I remember having fun reading up on while choosing what to order (first time doing so).
As regards Chardonnay, I am in the camp that dislikes the buttery California Chardonnays, but I love the Oregon Chardonnays, especially the unoaked ones. Stoller makes one I really like for around $16. I would not bother to age it.
With regard to Pinot Noir, I think they hit their stride pretty early, but some of the big single vineyard ones from Oregon (Sokol Blooser Big Oak, several of the Ken Wrights, Ayoubs, and ALL the Patricia Greens will IMO benefit from 4-6 years.
Cabs have shifted in recent decades towards fruitiness. Some of the older style and leaner ones like Clos du Val, BV, and Chateau Montelena benefit from ten of more years. If you are lucky enough to get any of the three Cab blends Ridge makes, twenty years plus would not be out of line.
With regard to Pinot Noir, I think they hit their stride pretty early, but some of the big single vineyard ones from Oregon (Sokol Blooser Big Oak, several of the Ken Wrights, Ayoubs, and ALL the Patricia Greens will IMO benefit from 4-6 years.
Cabs have shifted in recent decades towards fruitiness. Some of the older style and leaner ones like Clos du Val, BV, and Chateau Montelena benefit from ten of more years. If you are lucky enough to get any of the three Cab blends Ridge makes, twenty years plus would not be out of line.
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Thank you for the advice. I should wait till the 19’s are for sale on the site and check the prices then…. Plus, I’d be able to use a 30% off coupon if it’s not a pre order.
I’ll continue researching. I have no close wine experts that I know of. I’ll be looking on the internet…
That’s a nice Sauternes.
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Thank you for the suggestions!
Any time, Pop.
It’s either that or drive them cross country to the desert, where I will be relocating.
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Thank you for looking at the posts. That is one I might try a pre order.
My oldest is a 2007 Marques de Riscal, rioja.
Of special interest is a 2010 Bordeaux that a French girl brought over.
Of special interest is a 2010 Bordeaux that a French girl brought over.
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Very nice
I don't recognise that brand but ... 2010 was a good vintage for Bordeaux.
I'm not home right now.
I'll put it in better light and take more pictures.
It was at least 5 years old when she brought it over,
so I'm assuming they don't sell aged inferior Bordeaux off the shelf in France.
I haven't been able to reference the label either.
It doesn't look like a normal "Chateau" label, so I'm thinking it's probably a "shipper's blend" ... long tradition of the various wine shippers in Bordeaux doing a "house label" blend for each vintage. Some better than others, and of course each varying with the vintage.
My suspicion is that it's going to be a "better" class of blend, especially if it had been aged (bottle and barrel) for 5 years. If so, this is one that isn't an "age it for decades" bottle but "give it a couple more years and enjoy" bottle.
But that's just my guess; I could be wrong.
Enjoying follow this discussion. Sorry I don’t have any recommendations, a struggle to age what I have and make and when to catch that sweet spot in agreeing. I do have fond memories of my father and his friends endeavors. Following weather and production at mostly French vineyards and purchasing cases of “investment” wines. At home, those special bottles would be marked with a piece of masking tape around the neck to deter us kids from accidentally retrieving the wrong bottle from the cellar... Exciting gatherings where my dad’s friends would visit with a dusty box to test the investment. Mostly it was an awesome reveal, sometimes it was long discussion of what recipes would be better for for cooking with. Always great hope and great times with old wine and old friends. Cellaring is like planting trees.
Tom
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