Go or no go

[Doc226]

I got this razor from a member for a cleanup, the razor has some rust and pitting on the edge. I will try to get a bevel on it before a cleanup, but I think a shortie is in its future.

It is THIN

 

[RzrDoc]

Yeah, looks pretty deep on the toe there. I'd say go for it and see what you've got left.
Darn rust. nice chopper potential.

 

[mycarver]

Oh wait, I remember the expression now. Send it to me for proper disposal. Or something like that. It'll go. At the most, if you really have to it may get shortened by less than a quarter inch. Probably less just to clean up the edge. The toe on the face looks a bit iffy but in photos they tend to look like that. There is some meat on those bones and you should have enough to work with. No end view but it's a guess. Possibly sweep the edge back following the same lines by a tad. You'll never notice and there are good reasons for doing that.

Why put a bevel on it before cleaning it up?

 

[Puerco]

Why put a bevel on it before cleaning it up?

Putting a bevel on it is easy and quick, this way you can see if the metal under there is capable of taking such a bevel. If it is you can do the restoration, if it is not you can think about other options. Doing a full restoration only to discover that the metal is not capable of taking a good bevel is a lot of work down the drain...

 

[Doc226]

Why put a bevel on it before cleaning it up?

Putting a bevel on it is easy and quick, this way you can see if the metal under there is capable of taking such a bevel. If it is you can do the restoration, if it is not you can think about other options. Doing a full restoration only to discover that the metal is not capable of taking a good bevel is a lot of work down the drain...

Exactly

Wanted to see what it looked like under the rust.

I will take some pics of it so far-still very iffy

 

[mycarver]

I'm well aware of that , but that blade will clean up fine. I don't see iffy. I see a finished blade. Might be a consideration if the edge was trashed or badly pitted but I'd say that will all work out.
Look at the blade I did for you Doc. And you were worried about that edge too.

Put a bevel on it and sure, the rust will make it look terrible. Get rid of the rust ( you have plenty of steel to work with) and finish it off. You can keep honing and honing until you get to solid metal,, or just remove the rust as I said and get to the solid metal.
Otherwise do you look at the bevel and say " This razor can't be saved " based on just that bevel ?

If that's what you determine, and before you toss the blade, send it to me for proper disposal.I'll make it work.

 

[Firewalker]

I'm well aware of that , but that blade will clean up fine. I don't see iffy. I see a finished blade. Might be a consideration if the edge was trashed or badly pitted but I'd say that will all work out.
Look at the blade I did for you Doc. And you were worried about that edge too.

Put a bevel on it and sure, the rust will make it look terrible. Get rid of the rust ( you have plenty of steel to work with) and finish it off. You can keep honing and honing until you get to solid metal,, or just remove the rust as I said and get to the solid metal.
Otherwise do you look at the bevel and say " This razor can't be saved " based on just that bevel ?

If that's what you determine, and before you toss the blade, send it to me for proper disposal.I'll make it work.

+1

 

[daflorc]

Exactly
Wanted to see what it looked like under the rust.
I will take some pics of it so far-still very iffy

Agreed. Seeing as the blade is so thin, that rust might not be just surface rust, and putting a quick bevel on the toe at least will give you an idea of what you're working with before you invest much time in it. I've run into a couple full hollows with rust toward the edge and the steel just crumbled when I started honing, it was so degraded. I'd say you can forget about grinding out pitting in that area, though.

I was seriously considering going for that razor, but I've learned the hard way that you can't return the razor once you change the state that it was in when you got it, and I was too concerned over that rust - it hides many things...

 

[mdunn]

the toe is definitely a worry. it may be swiss cheese under there, but like others say, you can always dig through to good steel (assuming the cheese doesnt go too far up the blade)

 

[Doc226]

Here is a quick clena up of the blade so far, started at 220 grit and up to 400. Did not want to push it any further since it is so thin. The edge itself is still very iffy under the loupe.

 

[mdunn]

looks cheesy

before you do too much more work, put a bevel on it and take a look under magnification so you can see what the edge will do

 

[Doc226]

looks cheesy

before you do too much more work, put a bevel on it and take a look under magnification so you can see what the edge will do

That's the plan.

I will check it out tomorrow.

 

[Legion]

Shorty.

 

[Doc226]

An update good bevel mid way on the blade

Show side near toe

Non show side

I think it will need to loose about 1/4 of an inch

 

[mycarver]

This route told you much more than just putting a bevel on it. Where did I hear that 1/4 inch before? Hmmmm?

 

[Doc226]

This route told you much more than just putting a bevel on it. Where did I hear that 1/4 inch before? Hmmmm?

It helped just to know putting a bevel on it. This just clears it up some more.

Now it's scientific.

 

[Doc226]

Option 1

Option 2

Awaiting the owners response.

 

[noahpictures]

I would go with option one because it wouldn't be so obvious that it was shortened. Option two would probably look better, like a good looking smurf.

 

[Firewalker]

If we are taking a vote, I vote for #2. Love the barbers notch on big blades.

 

[Doc226]

Ok toe chopped. Blade cleaned up.

Scale clean up and assembly

Or so I thought

See a problem?

How about now.

Yep the heel protrudes. I did not notice this as the scales were twisted and I think held up the blade.

In order for the blade not to protrude the blade would have to sit like this.

Uggly.

Ok, no problem, new scales, new shape.

More to come.