sigh.
surely its up to the company outsourcing to them to specify quality standards & materials. And if not, why is it a chinese, rather than a western factory thats cutting corners.
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Out of curiosity, can anyone name me one world class "brand" that the Chinese have been able to create? /QUOTE]
All the major golf club manufacturers except PING have their clubs made in Chinese factories. I think Titleist, TaylorMade, Callaway, etc. have solid reputations as well-built clubs.
Granted, the Chinese didn't "create" these brands, but they are outsourcing all their production to Chinese factories and the quality continues to be top-notch.
Where is the Chinese Toyota...or Sony...or Hitachi...Honda, and so on?
No need to get that technical. The Chinese factory to whom they farmed out production would--through their inevitable cutting of production corners and use of substandard materials to make extra "off the books" profit--accomplish the same thing at no r&d cost to P&G/Gillette.
It's not an exaggeration when someone says that a Chinese factory keeps three sets of books: one for the government, one for their Western customer and the real one.
one of two options,
A) they will go to someone like treet or lord and have a cheap plastic DE done for them, sold in combination with extreamtly expencive de blades, a pack of gillette platiniums, 5 blades is 4 euros in the supermarkets, against the 75 cents a 10 pack of red personnas cost,
B) they will do the same trick they did before changing the hole and size configuration on the blade itself so they can patent it (like then they pushed for the change from the original barrel hole blade to the current configuration)
but then again, this has been discussed on many occasions, and the introduction of a single blade non pivot safety razor by both gillette and wilkinson seems very unlikley, i suspect they only continue to manufacture DE blades for legacy reason (cheap to make and still sell)
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BTW, the 3 books story comes from a friend who is over their once a month overseeing the production of espresso machines. He's also told me that they have to "overengineer" the specs given to the Chinese factory in order to correct for the inevitable off-the-books shortcuts that will be taken.
BTW, if Gillette outsourced the production of a new DE to a Japanese company, I'd be the first one in line to buy it.
This isn't a slam against Asian companies. I have all the respect in the world for the Japanese companies and their business philosophy--which is actually about building superior products, companies and brands for the long term, while still giving the people who work for them decent lives.
People made the same complaints about the quality of Japanese goods in the past, and with justification. Some of the worst welding I have ever seen was on Japanese bikes from the 1970s.
But I get the feeling that China will find it far harder improving the safety of their products: call me boring if you will, but developed countries have shown that standards institutes, effective state supervision, professional associations, a free press and consumer groups are better than firing squads when it comes pressuring manufacturers into ensuring the safety of their products.
A good milestone for confidence in Chinese goods will be when the first western airline starts buying Chinese airliners.
Hell, I think european-made airliners are in trouble unless they find that black box.