Geo F. Trumper says NEVER to shave ATG - Whaaat???

[KrstGor]

I was just browsing through the GFT website and could hardly believe, when I saw this:

The fundamental principles of wet shaving for men | Geo. F. Trumper

Shaving is an art, not instinctive knowledge. By refining your technique and using good quality products you can make shaving a pleasurable experience.

www.trumpers.com

Are we really all fools, when we do the "fool's pass"?

 

[BudgetShaverGuy]

Some people’s beard simply cannot handle ATG shaving. GFT are playing it safe by instructing others to shave WTG ONLY, which is way safer for the general public. Also, the blade type was not specified. Multi-blade carts are made for a super close shave WTG.

If you can go ATG all the power to you and it’s your face, do whatever!

 

[KrstGor]

Multi-blade carts are made for a super close shave WTG.

If you can go ATG all the power to you and it’s your face, do whatever!

Give me a break pls. I am yet to see anyone older than 16 get a BBS with a cartridge razor. It might be great for shaving female legs, but not my face lol

I do go ATG on my upper lip and have no problem, smooth as silk... like anything else it's the matter of good face prep and proper technique, nothing else.

 

[Ridpath]

I’ve never had the problem, but could it be because shaving against the grain can potentially cause ingrown hairs? I’m not familiar enough with the physiology of ingrown hairs to know for sure.

Personally I am quite happy with the quality of my shave after going with and across the grain, but go against the grain just to give myself something to do

Edit: just saw in the small text, GFT states that going against the grain can potentially cause ingrown hairs. Never mind!

 

[Romanex01]

This is just corporate weasel behavior. They're afraid if you shave ATG and get ingrown hairs or irritation, you'll flood their email box with complaints and not buy their stuff, which I don't .

 

[Earl_Grey]

I do go ATG on my upper lip and have no problem, smooth as silk... like anything else it's the matter of good face prep and proper technique, nothing else.

This is simply incorrect. Whether or not someone is able to shave against the grain is a matter of skin and beard type. No prep or technique will counteract a skin that is too sensitive for an ATG pass.

 

[kingfisher]

Certainly atg shaving is more likely to cause irritation than wtg or xtg. So Trumper is ofering advice that is likely very beneficial for the average Joe.

 

[tonich]

Are we really all fools?

You want to trust the product or you want to use the product?

BBS is overrated and you are doing it wrong all the way.
You have poor understanding of this business.

 

[Samon]

Hmm.. I used to feel that way as I thought I had particularly sensitive skin and even doing the 3 pass wtg + xtg + xtg shaving directions as recommended always gave me irritation and soreness in a few hot spot areas around my neck and just below the sides of my mouth.

I didn't think my skin could cope with atg but it was only after I tried going wtg + atg with my fatip piccolo (I use it with a very steep angle for better control of aggression and feedback) that I got BBS and little to no irritation, even with feathers, derby extras and astra sp blades. I can get a good shave with a de89 but not even close to the Fatip level of comfort or closeness.

So although I started with the mentality that a 'real shave' should leave you BBS I learned that that's not true nor anywhere near as important as a comfortable DFS. However since learning my razor and blades better I go for a full BBS wtg + atg with a quick touch up on the tricky areas and I do this every other day and it's more comfortable, more efficient and better for my skin than the standard 3 passes I tried for so many years.

 

[Mitzie]

Customers pay good money to have a shave at Trumpers in London. They want their customers to come back to them for another shave, without any complaints, hence they proceed to shave them cautiously. Note they use hot towels for maximum exfoliation which to some extent compensates for not shaving ATG in giving them a close shave, but it won't be BBS

Consequently, as a company Trumper's practise what they preach

 

[RayClem]

Although I routinely shave ATG with most shave soaps, I would never shave ATG when using Trumper cream. I guess they realize their products are not up to the task.

 

[GaryTha]

When I started shaving, I never heard of skin food. Exfoliation was something done on a Ranch Hand mission.

 

[Chan Eil Whiskers]

Although I routinely shave ATG with most shave soaps, I would never shave ATG when using Trumper cream. I guess they realize their products are not up to the task.

Remind me not to buy them.

Not that I was going to anyway.

This is just corporate weasel behavior. They're afraid if you shave ATG and get ingrown hairs or irritation, you'll flood their email box with complaints and not buy their stuff, which I don't.

Suit yourself, right.

Happy shaves,

Jim

 

[doug1066]

So, I started shaving with a Schick L1 in the years before cartridges. My Father shaved with a Schick J1, which I still own, and my Grandfather used a straight, which I still own. They taught me how to shave. It was always with and then against the grain and if you wanted the “Sunday go to Meeting” shave, you then added across the grain. That is how I shave and it works for me. As always, YMMV.


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[NWTSCL]

I can't go ATG. I get ingrown hairs very easily.

My hair is curly. And my hair from my jawline down exits nearly flat against my skin. So if I try ATG for BBS, the hairs immediately curl down and burrow under the skin. No amount of prep or clean up solves this.

 

[njpaddy]

Been shaving against the grain since1964, when I switched from the electric my parents gave me in high school to a Schick Injector in college. Around 1973, I started 30+ years of carts. I can't remember if I had a problem with ingrown hairs using that injector (I was using canned foam I so probably had them), but with carts I was always digging in my face with tweezers and plucking them out. In using a DE for almost 11 years, I hardly ever get an ingrown hair unless the blade is dull, which is why I toss most DE blades after 2.

 

[Avi]

Truefitt and Hill also says not to go ATG and puts more of an explanation to it.

I do love going ATG but there is truth to the statement your face loves you when you don’t. 11am shadow is worth it

The Seven Steps To A Perfect Shave

Shaving is an essential and fundamental part of every gentleman’s grooming routine. There’s so much more to this rite of passage than putting a razor to your face; other factors need to be considered as shaving also plays an important role in maintaining healthy-looking skin. While you may have...

www.truefittandhill.com

 

[Polarbeard]

Some years ago I told myself "No Trumpers No More" and I still find it to be a valid statement.

 

[Leo501]

Some dermatologists will recommend not doing ATG, particularly if you have sensitive skin or are prone to ingrown hairs & irritation. Some also recommend against doing multiple passes.

Key word there for me is "general" shaving tips.

 

[ethatcher]

I can't go ATG. I get ingrown hairs very easily.

My hair is curly. And my hair from my jawline down exits nearly flat against my skin. So if I try ATG for BBS, the hairs immediately curl down and burrow under the skin. No amount of prep or clean up solves this.

This, not curly but very flat.