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Escher/Thuringian love. show of your rocks

It looked so weird, all the holes, the way it looked. Everything seemed off to me. I was ready to post it here and ask what you guys thought but it was a live auction when I saw it.
 
It looks like bricks/cement blocks do after years underwater. Seen those same pockmarks in cheap Russian Synth hones. That's my guess at what it is. Russian Synth with a escher label slapped on it. But pictures aren't good enough to be sure.
 
Interesting stone. I have not seen these kind so far for sale. It could indeed be a Thuringian and also an Escher. These holes in the stone matrix appear in the very outer layers of the whetstone quarries. But normally these weren't sold because of the bad quality.
Here are pictures of the outer shell of the thuringian whetstone quarry, where also the Escher stones have been mined:

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Detailed picture of the rock:

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Regards Peter
 

David

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I’ve think I’ve seen the air pockets before on stones that had those little gold inclusions.
 
The label looks too good and the stone looks too weird. It just sets off my alarms. If the label were real, it would be hard to believe someone spent an entire one on a fake if their intent from the off was to rip ppl off. You would think they would break it up into fragments and scam a bunch of ppl over many months on several stones..
 
Not that they didn't slap labels on things which were naughty to send out. The best one I have ever had had a label slapped over an issue that never should have been let through.
 
Thanks for the information. Have you seen them cut like this before, and this is what it looks like cut? Smooth with air pockets?

No I don't. As said - normally the quality of these very outer layers isn't very good and I think at the high times nobody and at least not the Escher company would have sold this kind of hones. But when the production comes to an end and the good layers were hard to explore, they may have also sold less quality stones.

What makes me a little bit wondering looking on the photos is, that it seems that the side where the label is glued is lapped in the same manner than the honing side and the label looks freshly glued on the lapped surface....
On an old stored stone the surface would be darker and a bit greasy.

Regards Peter
 
So I email David now and then to show off scores and get input on gambles. Gambled on an assumed 9" last week and noted when I showed him the listing that I've been notably unsuccessful with 9" stones. So many India's with weird angles and other boobie prizes this year when I bought stones that appeared to be 9" stones.

I was emailing him about a 9" I thought was a Thuringian that time. It turned out to be that 8" spotted Thuringian I had a thread about last week.

Over the weekend I found a couple more listings to gamble on... including this very big gamble with awful pictures and a low BIN:

Told him:

"What the hell, I'm feeling lucky.

fully oil-crusted and terrible pics 7x2 and 9x2" combo.

7x2" appears clearly 2 sided, almost certainly india/crys combo, but maybe it'll wind up being a washita or hard ark combo with something...

9x2" hopefully a washita"


It gets here today, and the 7" appears to be a synth combo like I guessed (soaking in Simple Green now).

The 9" however...
 

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I had a tiny suspicion from the scratches/gouges... but I didn't dare hope... I was like well maybe 5% chance of Thuri, 30-40% chance of Washita... buy it and hope for a washita but be prepared to just be wasting my money... and maybe I'll get lucky and the 7" will have an ark on it and be the surprise score...

Really didn't expect much... but that's usually when you get a score like this.

Problem with eBay is for every seller with a Thuri who just can't take good pictures, there's a hundred with oil-crusted synths that know that if their pictures are blurry enough and their BIN low enough, someone will take the bait as a gamble. And what kills me is often they're doing it to clear maybe $5-10 after fees and shipping. The real cost is lost in the shipping.

I dump my synths in large flat rates @~ $10-50/box of 18-30 stones... probably sold 8-10 of those boxes so far. Most of those stones are from gambles I paid $10-40/stone for... and the majority of the time, I suspect the seller knew exactly what he was selling and what he was trying to make it look like. That 8x1.5" India was the worst one lately... think I paid $50 for it because the seller used all kinds of crazy angles, and a bent tape measure to make it look like a 10x2" stone. Went into a box of 30 stones that I got $30+shipping for. Still, when you get the scores it makes it all worthwhile.
 
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Thanks for your input. Did you see the crazy spotted stone I got last month?

Intersting stone. Are you sure it is a thuringian? How deep do the spots go into the stone? Sometimes stones with a natural skin show these spots. It appears when you lap the skin away, but doesn't go deep into the stone.
Regards Peter
 
I'm not positive; but it shaves like one and the sides/ends look correct. Spots aren't a skin, they're a pattern. Don't appear on the other side, but they go well into the stone. Several fairly good pictures of it in posts 9 and 10 of this thread.

 
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What was up with this one? Something just doesn’t look quite right.

Yeah, total pass for me too. I wish I could find out who poor guy who paid almost 400$ for it was and if it panned out or not. What would you do if it were you who got hit, I honestly wouldn't have the heart to even re list it as it was.
 
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