DS Cosmetic (316L stainless steel) Z0 vs 2013 Mühle R41
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Well, Gus (@GlazedBoker ) suckered me into buying one of these. I saw his review, then I saw one come up on a BST and picked it up. I pretty much agree with what's already been said. Fit and Finish aren't perfect, but not too bad either. The shave experience was more aggressive than the 2013 R41, but more comfortable than the Ikon Tech. It's a nice middle ground for people like me who don't enjoy the Tech.
I did a full video review on my YT channel if anyone is interested. The Shaving Disciple.
I did a full video review on my YT channel if anyone is interested. The Shaving Disciple.
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35.0US $ |Dscosmetic Z0 abierto de acero inoxidable peine maquinilla de afeitar de doble filo de la cabeza|Maquinilla de afeitar| - AliExpress
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The first copy will open your face and make you p!ss blood 
Hey! I’ve been away from B&B for a while but had to come back to celebrate the Z0.
I totally agree with @GlazedBoker on this one, it’s nearer the 2011 R41 than the 2013 but maybe slightly better behaved and smoother. And my results so far are just as good as I ever got with the iKon Tech but way more comfortable.
And it’s a big stainless steel beauty for <£40…
It’s like the Z0 has come out of a dream from about 2014
I totally agree with @GlazedBoker on this one, it’s nearer the 2011 R41 than the 2013 but maybe slightly better behaved and smoother. And my results so far are just as good as I ever got with the iKon Tech but way more comfortable.
And it’s a big stainless steel beauty for <£40…
It’s like the Z0 has come out of a dream from about 2014
Just out of interest, what serial numbers have you guys got on your Z0s?
Mine is 888267
I really like that these have serial numbers , like the Single Rings!
Mine is 888267
I really like that these have serial numbers , like the Single Rings!
It's a R41 clone and I got 888041.
888165
Mine is 888256.
Perhaps that this number it's unique only for each model. All of them starts with 888xxx.
I say this because I performed an internet search of DSCosmetic models and found this:
And perhaps that hasn't a order too (or a selling order)... because of this T7 model number
I don't believe they have manufactured 927 heads of the T7 model, at least in the Aliexpress stats they didn't even reach half of this number in sales...
Welcome back!Hey! I’ve been away from B&B for a while but had to come back to celebrate the Z0.
I totally agree with @GlazedBoker on this one, it’s nearer the 2011 R41 than the 2013 but maybe slightly better behaved and smoother. And my results so far are just as good as I ever got with the iKon Tech but way more comfortable.
And it’s a big stainless steel beauty for <£40…
It’s like the Z0 has come out of a dream from about 2014
Totaly aggree. I would say 10/10 on the aggressive side but very smooth.Hey! I’ve been away from B&B for a while but had to come back to celebrate the Z0.
I totally agree with @GlazedBoker on this one, it’s nearer the 2011 R41 than the 2013 but maybe slightly better behaved and smoother. And my results so far are just as good as I ever got with the iKon Tech but way more comfortable.
And it’s a big stainless steel beauty for <£40…
It’s like the Z0 has come out of a dream from about 2014
Thanks colleagues for announcing the V2 version of Z0!
Again I couldn't resist and pulled the trigger! You are guilty if I sleep outside the house because of my wife!
I had version no. 1 of the Z0 and I was a little disappointed that it couldn't fix the blade well and it vibrated. Only after I manually processed the head, I got a very good shave with Z0 v1. I'm curious if v2 solved this problem.
Unfortunately, it arrives in Romania in about 6 weeks.
I was about to pull the trigger on the Z0 v2 yesterday - I had read here the v1 was not the greatest, so will wait to see if the v2 has ironed out all the niggles.
Would appreciate a review when it arrives Alin
Would appreciate a review when it arrives Alin
I received Z0 v2! It's fantastic. Thanks to colleagues for the presentation , @osvaldo86 . It is a rival to the size of Muhle R41 SS at half price! I received a very close shave, without cuts or irritations. Very pleased with the device.
How do you distinguish v2 from v1?
I avoided the Z0 v1 version due to the reviews - but got the v2 version hoping they had ironed out the problems identified in the v1.
The v2 is superb quality and tolerances. It gives the closest shave of any other I own - which includes the r41 and Yaqi slant.
The first shave I used a bic chrome platinum which I find lethal sharp .. and despite a smooth shave; it bit and drew blood.
The second shave I used an Astra blade .. and it was smooth, gentle .. and didnt bite.
I cant imagine any razor giving a closer shave than the v2 without there being blood .. but I do not own the v1 to compare.
Alin - as you own both; what are the differences? does the v1 shave closer, or just rougher??
The v2 is superb quality and tolerances. It gives the closest shave of any other I own - which includes the r41 and Yaqi slant.
The first shave I used a bic chrome platinum which I find lethal sharp .. and despite a smooth shave; it bit and drew blood.
The second shave I used an Astra blade .. and it was smooth, gentle .. and didnt bite.
I cant imagine any razor giving a closer shave than the v2 without there being blood .. but I do not own the v1 to compare.
Alin - as you own both; what are the differences? does the v1 shave closer, or just rougher??
V1 is ok.V2 is superb.
V1 blade cheater , top cap is poor clone R41, is not finish.
V1 is more agresive.
V1 is rouger for me.
But, YMMV. 
I have no chatter in my V1. Aggressiveness pairs evenly with my '36 British Aristocrat, Rex around 7-8. Smooth with a Nacet, but I haven't tried anything else.
All that to say, if you like some blade-feel and high efficiency, you have to try the Z0. If you don't like feeling the teeth of the shark, you won't like this one.
I have no chatter in my V1. Aggressiveness pairs evenly with my '36 British Aristocrat, Rex around 7-8. Smooth with a Nacet, but I haven't tried anything else.All that to say, if you like some blade-feel and high efficiency, you have to try the Z0. If you don't like feeling the teeth of the shark, you won't like this one.
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