shoelessjoe
"I took out a Chihuahua!"
Ten months later & I have yet to fire, let alone, load a single 9x25 Dillon round...
Last January I placed an order for a (Glock 40 MOS) 9x25 Dillon-chambered barrel from Bar-Sto Precision & three months later, it shipped ... me, I was working out of state, so the barrel sat on the reloading bench next to an (also) unopened set of 9x25 Dillon dies. Arrived back home about a month later, but weeks passed before I was finally freed up to commence fiddling with the 9x25.
Unwilling to part with an additional $150-ish (shipping to; barrel fitting fee & return shipping) to have Bar-Sto fit the barrel, I set about & was successful in mating the barrel to the Glock 40. Now, it was time to commence reloading a few 9x25 dummy rounds ... following no small amount of time spent perusing archived forum threads for 9x25 reloading info, I then transformed five new 10mm Starline cases into five 9x25 dummies.
Plunked those dummies into the barrel & immediately discovered that the case shoulders needed to be tweaked, as they protruded .003 to .004 proud of the barrel hood ... using Redding, RCBS & Hornady 10mm case holders, I adjusted the press to various cam-over settings. Try as I might & having initially trimmed the sized cases to archived specs., I just couldn't get the cases to fit the recommended .002~.003 below the barrel hood. Walked away from the bench & a couple days later called up Bar-Sto.
Talking with B-S tech support & the person suggested that I return the barrel with 5 sized, empty 9x25 cases so that they might finish ream the barrel chamber. A couple weeks later i get a phone call from Bar-Sto owner, Irv Stone III, who fortunately intercepted my 9x25 barrel before it was reamed. Having measured my sized cases & then the barrel, he determined that the Dillon sizing die was to blame, as my case shoulders specced out exactly to 357 SIG dimensions. Stone said, I can tweak the barrel chamber, but at 9x25 Dillon pressures, you're going to experience unpleasant case separations! Irv suggested that I contact Dillon Precision re the quandry & to quote him re the sized case specs.
A few days later Dillon issued an RA# along with instructions to return the Dillon die set, along with a few additional sized cases. They wanted to fill the sizing die with a compound which after setting up would be removed, revealing the sizing die's internal dimensions. Weeks went by, the barrel still up in Sturgis, sitting on Irv Stone's desk & the dies, who knows where in AZ?? I reinitiated contact with Dillon Precision and a couple days later received the following from them:
"Hi Devl...', We have a new die set on order, but we're waiting for carbide inserts so we can make the set.'
Thank you!
Dillon Precision
I called Irv Stone, who was not surprised to hear about the out-of-spec die nor Dillon's commitment to excellent customer service. Fifteen dollars & two weeks later, the Bar-Sto barrel was back home along with an invoice which read: "Evaluated the barrel chamber dimensions. Found Dillon Sent Wrong Dies."
Meanwhile, Dillon Precision & I are still patiently waiting on those carbide rings...
Morale of the story, you ask? Well, I suppose good things do take time. That, and I have zero complaints with Dillon Precision & naturally, Bar-Sto Precision ... they are two heavyweights atop of their respective heaps who have not forgotten how they ascended there.
Last January I placed an order for a (Glock 40 MOS) 9x25 Dillon-chambered barrel from Bar-Sto Precision & three months later, it shipped ... me, I was working out of state, so the barrel sat on the reloading bench next to an (also) unopened set of 9x25 Dillon dies. Arrived back home about a month later, but weeks passed before I was finally freed up to commence fiddling with the 9x25.
Unwilling to part with an additional $150-ish (shipping to; barrel fitting fee & return shipping) to have Bar-Sto fit the barrel, I set about & was successful in mating the barrel to the Glock 40. Now, it was time to commence reloading a few 9x25 dummy rounds ... following no small amount of time spent perusing archived forum threads for 9x25 reloading info, I then transformed five new 10mm Starline cases into five 9x25 dummies.
Plunked those dummies into the barrel & immediately discovered that the case shoulders needed to be tweaked, as they protruded .003 to .004 proud of the barrel hood ... using Redding, RCBS & Hornady 10mm case holders, I adjusted the press to various cam-over settings. Try as I might & having initially trimmed the sized cases to archived specs., I just couldn't get the cases to fit the recommended .002~.003 below the barrel hood. Walked away from the bench & a couple days later called up Bar-Sto.
Talking with B-S tech support & the person suggested that I return the barrel with 5 sized, empty 9x25 cases so that they might finish ream the barrel chamber. A couple weeks later i get a phone call from Bar-Sto owner, Irv Stone III, who fortunately intercepted my 9x25 barrel before it was reamed. Having measured my sized cases & then the barrel, he determined that the Dillon sizing die was to blame, as my case shoulders specced out exactly to 357 SIG dimensions. Stone said, I can tweak the barrel chamber, but at 9x25 Dillon pressures, you're going to experience unpleasant case separations! Irv suggested that I contact Dillon Precision re the quandry & to quote him re the sized case specs.
A few days later Dillon issued an RA# along with instructions to return the Dillon die set, along with a few additional sized cases. They wanted to fill the sizing die with a compound which after setting up would be removed, revealing the sizing die's internal dimensions. Weeks went by, the barrel still up in Sturgis, sitting on Irv Stone's desk & the dies, who knows where in AZ?? I reinitiated contact with Dillon Precision and a couple days later received the following from them:
"Hi Devl...', We have a new die set on order, but we're waiting for carbide inserts so we can make the set.'
Thank you!
Dillon Precision
I called Irv Stone, who was not surprised to hear about the out-of-spec die nor Dillon's commitment to excellent customer service. Fifteen dollars & two weeks later, the Bar-Sto barrel was back home along with an invoice which read: "Evaluated the barrel chamber dimensions. Found Dillon Sent Wrong Dies."
Meanwhile, Dillon Precision & I are still patiently waiting on those carbide rings...
Morale of the story, you ask? Well, I suppose good things do take time. That, and I have zero complaints with Dillon Precision & naturally, Bar-Sto Precision ... they are two heavyweights atop of their respective heaps who have not forgotten how they ascended there.