Difference between Gillette Diplomat and President

[rivieraranch]

Other than the plating, do the Diplomat and President differ in such particulars as blade gap or something else?

 

[alex2363]

Here thanks to Mr Razor as always :



Here you can see from left to right:

1948-1951 Aristocrat, gold plated
1953 Diplomat, gold plated
1953 President, nickel plated

The Diplomat and President have the knurling near the knob

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[Copierguy]

If you are asking about how the two shave, I've never noticed a difference. Far as I know they just have the different plating and came in different cases.

 

[A28]

nice id love to get my hands on one of those

 

[rivieraranch]

My inquiry is simply this. If you took a Diplomat and plated it in rhodium would it be a President? The same for a President plated in gold; would that be a Diplomat? In other words are there any differences such as blade gap or anything else that would - other than plating - differentiate the two.

 

[A28]

they look identical to me

 

[chuckman]

The very first President (Y-1) was a rhodium plated Aristocrat handle with a band next to the TTO knob.

L to R

1946-47 Aristocrat (gold) top and bottom band
1948-51 Aristocrat (gold) knurling top and bottom band
1953 Y-1 President (rhodium) knurling top and bottom band
1953 Y-2 President (rhodium) knurling top and bottom

IMHO the 46-47 Aristocrat is just a shade more aggressive then the other three. Presidents are nice shavers and have a nice feel in your hand..... hard to explain...... It's my Sunday shaver.

 

[rivieraranch]

Thank you, Chuckman. Where does the Diplomat fit into this hierarchy? I have a cased 1948-1951 Aristocrat, a Y1 and an A1 President; and two cased A2 Diplomats. My Y1 President is knurled all the way like the Y2 in your picture.

 

[alex2363]

Thank you, Chuckman. Where does the Diplomat fit into this hierarchy? I have a cased 1948-1951 Aristocrat, a Y1 and an A1 President; and two cased A2 Diplomats. My Y1 President is knurled all the way like the Y2 in your picture.

Hierarchy of what? Aggression, price, shave, collectors value?

 

[rivieraranch]

Technically speaking.

 

[alex2363]

Technically speaking.

From Chuckman post:

The very first President (Y-1) was a rhodium plated Aristocrat handle with a band next to the TTO knob.

L to R

1946-47 Aristocrat (gold) top and bottom band
1948-51 Aristocrat (gold) knurling top and bottom band
1953 Y-1 President (rhodium) knurling top and bottom band
1953 Y-2 President (rhodium) knurling top and bottom

IMHO the 46-47 Aristocrat is just a shade more aggressive then the other three. Presidents are nice shavers and have a nice feel in your hand..... hard to explain...... It's my Sunday shaver.

 

[chuckman]

"""Thank you, Chuckman. Where does the Diplomat fit into this hierarchy? I have a cased 1948-1951 Aristocrat, a Y1 and an A1 President; and two cased A2 Diplomats. My Y1 President is knurled all the way like the Y2 in your picture.""""
From those you mentioned, I think in a blind shave test, you would probably not feel a difference. Presidents seem to be harder to come by and so it depends on whether you prefer gold or rhodium. Again, just my opinion.

 

[rivieraranch]

Since none of your guys really answered my question, I will conclude that the first President is an Aristocrat plated in rhodium; the Diplomat is a President plated in gold. There would be no way to tell if a President were plated in gold or a Diplomat plated in rhodium.

 

[nemo]

Only trouble with that theory is that the President is not entirely rhodium, as per this thread.
http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/169277-The-President-is-not-all-Rhodium

I have a few Presidents and have to agree.

 

[alex2363]

Since none of your guys really answered my question, I will conclude that the first President is an Aristocrat plated in rhodium; the Diplomat is a President plated in gold. There would be no way to tell if a President were plated in gold or a Diplomat plated in rhodium.

You are asking questions and when a member answers , u ask another question and confuse the answer. B&B member Chuckman already answered your question. If you want to know how to detect what razor is plated you can take it to a jeweler because sometimes users can replate razors to alter its original plating. But for the record the razors you asked about all differ in plating, and by design just slightly . The aggression levels of each is slightly different but not major.

 

[alex2363]

1948-50 Aristocrat models from this time period are a little tamer than their predecessors ...1946-47 considered most aggressive version of the Aristocrat.

 

[alex2363]

lets add some more fuel to the fire, the Gillette Regent Tech, looks like which one of the group?

 

[alex2363]

Regent Tech has no notch, end caps or text inside the head.(PAT. NOS. ON PACKAGE)

 

[rivieraranch]

Aristocrat?

 

[alex2363]

Aristocrat?

OK, 48-51 Aristocrat but it is not same thoughno notch, end caps or text inside the head.(PAT. NOS. ON PACKAGE)