Coticule Strand ID?

[Walker]

Can anyone tell me what strand these coticules are? I talked to Richmondesi earlier and he gave me a few names but told me to double check with Bart, maybe he will find this thread or one of you can confirm what he has already told me lol.

The sizes are 6X2 and 8X2

 

[SliceOfLife]

Are they Ardennes stones? Because I seem to remember Bart saying that there were so many different mining locations and veins within them that ID'ing vintages is basically impossible.

 

[Walker]

Are they Ardennes stones? Because I seem to remember Bart saying that there were so many different mining locations and veins within them that ID'ing vintages is basically impossible.

They were both bought from SRD so i wouldn't think they were vintage and the 6X2 came with an Ardennes box. I didn't include the box for the 8X2.

 

[Walker]

Am i right by saying Coticule Strand? Or is it Strain? Haven't been honing very long to really know.

 

[SliceOfLife]

I think most people call them Veins.

But I agree it sounds like they are Ardennes stones. I'd suggest you take good well lit pictures of the BBW and the joint between the BBW and the coti, as I've seen Bart mention that the BBW is a big help in ID'ing coti's a lot of the time.

Good luck.

 

[Walker]

I think most people call them Veins.

But I agree it sounds like they are Ardennes stones. I'd suggest you take good well lit pictures of the BBW and the joint between the BBW and the coti, as I've seen Bart mention that the BBW is a big help in ID'ing coti's a lot of the time.

Good luck.

There both slate backing. I use my slate backed coticules at home and my 2 at work are combos (so i didn't have to travel to the boat with a bunch of hones) Thanks for correcting the Strand mistake. I am going back to work tomorrow so maybe i can take pictures of those hones and get an opinion on those. Heading to BWI in about an hour

 

[gary haywood]

the small one looks like a la drassante at a guess not sure on the other one looks older could it be a vintage coticule

 

[Walker]

the small one looks like a la drassante at a guess not sure on the other one looks older could it be a vintage coticule

That one was the reason i PM'd Richmondesi. I just got it from SRD yesterday but when i saw how much darker it was than my other 4 cotis i wanted to know about it. I never really cared to know which veins my cotis were until now. I lapped it on a DMT and noticed it took longer than my other cotis which tells me it's a pretty hard stone. Richmondesi thought it could be a La Verte. As for the 6X2 he thought it could be a La Dressante (maybe La Nouvelle Vein) but he wasn't 100 percent sure. Hard to tell by a bunch of crappy photos. Plus he doesn't own either of those veins.

 

[Woodash]

I like the #2 hone a lot. Beautiful. I doubt that it's a pure hybrid, but it looks like it's got some similar characteristics.

 

[gary haywood]

the colur of the second one does look like a la verte , it has like a greeny hint to it. i think there normal very slow on slurry . but work very well.

 

[Bart]

The top one is most likely a La Nouvelle Veine. It could be mistaken as a La Petite Blanche, with the black line showing up on the lateral side, but I doubt it is one. The line in a La Petite Blanche is blue. It also looks like this one has very thin blue hairlines at the lateral side (though the picture isn't focused enough to be sure about that). If so, it's definitely a La Nouvelle Veine.

The bottom one is without any doubt a La Verte.


Kind regards,
Bart.

 

[richmondesi]

The top one is most likely a La Nouvelle Veine. It could be mistaken as a La Petite Blanche, with the black line showing up on the lateral side, but I doubt it is one. The line in a La Petite Blanche is blue. It also looks like this one has very thin blue hairlines at the lateral side (though the picture isn't focused enough to be sure about that). If so, it's definitely a La Nouvelle Veine.

The bottom one is without any doubt a La Verte.


Kind regards,
Bart.

1.5 out of two... Not bad!

Not that I know anything, but that doesn't look like a natural combo, so I didn't think La Petite Blanche.

 

[Walker]

The top one is most likely a La Nouvelle Veine. It could be mistaken as a La Petite Blanche, with the black line showing up on the lateral side, but I doubt it is one. The line in a La Petite Blanche is blue. It also looks like this one has very thin blue hairlines at the lateral side (though the picture isn't focused enough to be sure about that). If so, it's definitely a La Nouvelle Veine.

The bottom one is without any doubt a La Verte.


Kind regards,
Bart.

Thanks Bart for the info. I have a natural combo and another coti glued to BBW that i will post sometime next week (heading out to sea this morning, no signal for 4 or 5 days) that i would also like to get your professional opinion on. Sorry for the pics, bad lighting, bad photog, and pretty old Sony Cyber-Shot=bad pictures also thanks to everybody else who helped!!

 

[Walker]

1.5 out of two... Not bad!

Not that I know anything, but that doesn't look like a natural combo, so I didn't think La Petite Blanche.

You are correct. They both have slate backings, i keep my combos on the boat with me as to give me a selection of two hones to play with. At home i have a few Nortons, a Suehiro, and a few cotis. I didn't want to bring about 10 hones on here with me.

 

[Walker]

I have one more coti at the moment for identification if anyone wants to take a stab at it. Same story as the other two except this one appears to have tan lines running through it and it's a combo instead of the Selected coti.

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[wdwrx]

I'm not very good at "Guess the Vein", but that last one looks an awful lot like my La Dressante eu Blue.

I ain't puttin' any money on it; we really need to hear from the pros.

 

[Bart]

Yes, that looks like a La Dressante au Bleu.

They typically are a slight bit darker than the upper layer of La Dressante and are always attached to BBW (hence the name "au bleu"). They're moderate speed, and the layer has good structural integrity. That means you'll often see large rectangular hones cut from La Dressante au Bleu.
The irregular BBW/Coticule separation line is also quite typical.

Kind regards,
Bart.

 

[life2short1971]

I just bought two hones that very closely resemble that one. Is that a new purchase?

 

[richmondesi]

I must be getting better at this. I was going to say La Dressante au Bleu

 

[danjared]

I must be getting better at this. I was going to say La Dressante au Bleu

I find myself trying to identify every coticule I see. I'm a little behind you in guessing, though.