Both CC soaps and AS are long time favorites of mine. I can't speak to CC creams, but I've been a user of CC soaps and AS since I won a bottle of CC Bay Rum AS at a B&B meet in 2011. I still have some of that early AS left, made with Pure Grain Alcohol, Witch Hazel & Rum. I also have some early CC BR soap, when it was first released under the RazoRock label. Modern formulas of the soaps and AS are just as good as the early ones.