can you date these Executive sets

[Jake]

I have the good fortune of having 2 1949/1950 Executive sets. They each have the same cream colored blade dispenser, but they differ in the color of the "Gillette" name on the top of the case and of the types of blade packages stored behind the mirror. Do you know what the dates are of these? I had thought the 1950 set had a blue colored dispenser. Anyone else have the blades in this combination and know the dates of manufacture? I am basing my impressions on Mr. Razor's advertisements.

You can see the difference in the color of the faux ostrich case and the style they used to emboss "Gillette."

Unfortunate bleeding of the inferior type of glue ussed to affix the mirror to the case.

This is the place where the differences are most obvious. The blade packages stored behind the mirror. Your comments and insights will be appreciated.

 

[MacDaddy]

Can you get a date code off the open 10-pack in the one on the left? Also, how about a shot of the inside of the two razors' heads?

I'm inclined to guess that the black in the debossed "Gillette" on the case lid is more likely dirt, based on the other dark smudges on the exterior of that case, than an original treatment.

It's possible that they're both from '49 and they just span a change to the wrapping on the 20-packs. The 20-pack dispensers were already blue at that point, even though the 10-pack ones were cream.

 

[DutchmanRiver]

look in the head cause i've seen so far only one executive with "Pat Nos on Pkg" which would be definitly a 1950 one. the ordinary executive will say "pat nos on package" which is the 1949 and 1950 variant.

furthermore your creme coloured blade dispensers are from the '49 set

'50 set have the blue dispenser

 

[Jake]

Thanks Gents. I am unable to extract any blades from the cream colored blade case that's not still wrapped -- so the date code is not apparent. From what we've seen, that case is likely from 1949. The inside of the heads of the razors are identical, as shown below.

The additional oddity is the version of the blade packages stored behind the mirror--as seen in my initial photos. The 3 different sets are here, the cream colored dispenser and the blue foil and silver foil cases of 20 blades in each.

The silver foil wrapped set of 20 blades is not apparent from the advertisements on Mr. Razor's site or the sets in his gallery of razors. Wonder which year they are from. Anyone have those packages with a blue dispenser in the main compartment?

I guess I'll estimate 1949 for both of these set. Unless someone has a better answer. Thanks.

 

[DutchmanRiver]

i've seen all three different blade styles. furthermore i agree with you that both are from '49

 

[mr-razor]

the 1950 set on my site is not authentic. It´s a old match from me looking to the 1950 Ad. I believe the spare Dispenser are not right. I´ll delete this picture from my site. I´ve never seen a Executive with "PKG" inside the head.

 

[Dalejr]

I'm jealous, nice looking sets...

 

[Dools]

Very Nice....

 

[alex2363]

the 1950 set on my site is not authentic. It´s a old match from me looking to the 1950 Ad. I believe the spare Dispenser are not right. I´ll delete this picture from my site. I´ve never seen a Executive with "PKG" inside the head.

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[alex2363]

So this is a 1949-50 Variant? They both have blue blade sets not creme colored right?

 

[alex2363]

the 1950 set on my site is not authentic. It´s a old match from me looking to the 1950 Ad. I believe the spare Dispenser are not right. I´ll delete this picture from my site. I´ve never seen a Executive with "PKG" inside the head.

Do you mean PACKAGE or just abbreviation PKG?

 

[DutchmanRiver]

the 1950 set on my site is not authentic. It´s a old match from me looking to the 1950 Ad. I believe the spare Dispenser are not right. I´ll delete this picture from my site. I´ve never seen a Executive with "PKG" inside the head.

i've seen this picture posted by Rasierhobel in aother forum

 

[alex2363]

i've seen this picture posted by Rasierhobel in aother forum

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Is the inner lining dark green or black?

 

[alex2363]

the 1950 set on my site is not authentic. It´s a old match from me looking to the 1950 Ad. I believe the spare Dispenser are not right. I´ll delete this picture from my site. I´ve never seen a Executive with "PKG" inside the head.

I think the 1950 set with the Blue Spare is right.

 

[alex2363]

i've seen this picture posted by Rasierhobel in aother forum

View attachment 308040

Can you picture the spare blade package?

 

[DutchmanRiver]

Is the inner lining dark green or black?

dark green

Can you picture the spare blade package?

the best i can zoom

 

[mr-razor]

on @rasierhobels picture we can not see the spare blades behind the mirror. Here is a picture from my 1949 set:

 

[alex2363]

dark green



the best i can zoom

View attachment 308048

Yhat is not the spare package, that is the presentation /use package blades....the spare is behind the mirror.

 

[alex2363]

on @rasierhobels picture we can not see the spare blades behind the mirror. Here is a picture from my 1949 set:

View attachment 308055

Achim, your 1950 set seems to be right blue blade and spare, you should not delete the pics.

 

[MacDaddy]

Achim, your 1950 set seems to be right blue blade and spare, you should not delete the pics.

The cardboard-boxed spares are almost certainly not right (they look like retail 10-packs), and it sounded like Achim was saying he matched them up after the fact. If he found just the case and the razor without any of the blade packs, then it'd be hard to pin it for certain to either 1949 or '50. Assuming that the timing of the PACKAGE/PKG change was consistent everywhere, 1950 would have razors done both ways.