Can this Double Duck Quack Again

[syngent]

Connie Found this guy, wasnt sure what she wanted to do with it so when i visited her she left it to me to see if it was worth the effort and help it find its shaving days again,... I love the scales on it but just heard the term "cell rot" for the first time, and the possibility that the scales are beyond all hope of repair,.. so if that is true can the little quackers on the end and the other fancy stuff on the scales be removed and put to new ones ?,

here is the task at hand



I did hit it with some 0000 steel wool and got the surface rust off, and the ornaments on the scales all shiny again
if the scales are cooked ill just break them off and see if i can make this shine myself and let someone hone it up for me,... if there is a chance even a slim one that the scales may be salvaged i may try to save them, cause i like them

 

[jkh]

Yikes, there is a lot of damage at the edge. I'm no expert, but I am going to vote "no quack"

 

[syngent]

heres some shots after the wool

 

[smalltank]

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[syngent]

Yikes, there is a lot of damage at the edge. I'm no expert, but I am going to vote "no quack"

Awww man, thats a stake through the heart, very much a shame for a well regarded blade,... but ill make good use of it for practice if thats the case

Hope not though

 

[mdunn]

i would say cell rot, and keep that razor (well, really just the scales as they are the issue) as far away from my other razors as possible.

 

[syngent]

i would say cell rot, and keep that razor (well, really just the scales as they are the issue) as far away from my other razors as possible.

So what exactly is cell rot ?, and man its that nasty ? if its complicated ill google it but im a bit shocked at the moment

 

[Legion]

I think the blade might be toast. But I'm not sure about Cell rot. Those scales look like they can be salvaged to me.

I'm guessing cell rot is when the molecules of the cellulose plasticizers start to break down. I'm not an expert on that, but I did spend a number of years working with acetate films, which can do a similar thing. The acetate starts to break down, releases a strong vinegar smell, and goes all sticky and weird. There is a theory (which is debated) that this vinegar syndrome is contagious, and storing infected films with good ones will activate the chemical reaction in the good films. Archives will usually segregate the vinegar films in a separate vault. Partly because of this fear, but more likely, I suspect, because they just stink.

If your scales aren't stinky or tacky I'd say they are safe to restore and use again.

 

[Krodor]

All depends on how much time you've got. Find a movie you've watch a million times and start it up. Then sit down with this guy, some mineral oil, and a bunch of 100 grit sandpaper and go at it. Keep an eye on the blade and not the movie, and it'll start quacking soon enuf. You'll want to progress up thru 800 grit at least to leave a satin finish, but I'd keep it.
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[Doc226]

I would work backwards. Try to hone it and take a look with a loupe at the edge. If you can get a good edge then go and restore it. If you cant get a good clean bevel, no point in trying to clean her up.

 

[Krodor]

I would work backwards. Try to hone it and take a look with a loupe at the edge. If you can get a good edge then go and restore it. If you cant get a good clean bevel, no point in trying to clean her up.

Great advice, sir. OP, this man speaks wisely.

 

[johnmrson]

It definitely looks like cell rot to me.

 

[fine wine]

I took a razor in worse shape than that and gave it new life with just a dremal tool. But if you want a real job done on it contact "Mile post 60" You will be amazed how good it will look and shave. He is the man on this kind of thing. Seriously get in touch with him..............JR
A DD is worth the trouble.............

 

[syngent]

Thanks guys,... ill remove the scales, drop them in some acetone see if i cant free up the ornimants on them to reuse, then see about getting the blade to shine again, and let someone else (i dont have stones) see if they can get an edge to it then see about rescaling,

I would go backwards and it does make sense Doc, but I have never brought a blade back myself and wouldnt mind the time anyway, specially since i have no way to set a bevel myself

so we will see what happeneds

 

[Drybonz]

It definitely looks like cell rot to me.

+1. The worst areas of rust were under the scales when the razor was closed. From what I have read, those SatinEdge scales get the cell rot pretty frequently.

I would do a quick dunk in acetone, melt the scales, keep the foils and then start working on the blade. Doc's advice, above, is really good. I would not have thought of that, but it's a great way to proceed.

*edit* Just read your post, above, and realized everything I suggested was redundant. lol Sorry about that.

 

[syngent]

+1. The worst areas of rust were under the scales when the razor was closed. From what I have read, those SatinEdge scales get the cell rot pretty frequently.

I would do a quick dunk in acetone, melt the scales, keep the foils and then start working on the blade. Doc's advice, above, is really good. I would not have thought of that, but it's a great way to proceed.

*edit* Just read your post, above, and realized everything I suggested was redundant. lol Sorry about that.

Its okay, second opinions are welcome lol, and i dont think ive had the pleasure of interating with you so nice to meet you

 

[rickboone1]

I think she'll be able to be brought back to life. May or may not get to a smooth finish on the metal. May have an orange peel effect, however you'll be able to stop the active rust and bring forth a shine. The wool did a great job already. Imagine what a little sanding would do.... If it were my razor, I would not give up on it.

 

[syngent]

I think she'll be able to be brought back to life. May or may not get to a smooth finish on the metal. May have an orange peel effect, however you'll be able to stop the active rust and bring forth a shine. The wool did a great job already. Imagine what a little sanding would do.... If it were my razor, I would not give up on it.

we will just call that special etch pattern on the blade, natural effect done over years of aging !, and yeah most of that actual rust was on the surface which i was happy to see since the "ducks" and markings on the tang are still intact

 

[tomjr]

those scales (if they have the rot will rust the blade again. get rid of them in my opinion ! i had a dubl duck that did the same and i tried to re-use the scales (#1 special) they looked ok but rusted another blade in no time. actually 2 more blades i am a slow learner !!!!!!!!!! tom

 

[syngent]

yeah they are going,... if for no other reason then I totally want to watch them melt away in some acetone, cause that kind of seems like fun lmao,... if it takes days to work not so much though