Burr method bevel set

[Raithskar]

I must admit that until yesterday I had never heard of using the Burr method to set a bevel. I used it las night on 2 razors and the finished edges had magnificent HHT results. A strong 4 with my Wife's fine hair. This is an indicator with my particular HHT that the shave will be very smooth and comfortable.

At first I was wondering if I was doing it right. The burr is very subtle, but noticable when you feel the other side of the edge. Hone on one side until you feel the burr all along the edge of the blade. To see if you have it run your fingertip in a spine to edge direction. You will feel a very slight variance at the tip of the edge it will feel a little rough. Too see the contrast in feel, flip the blade and do the same thing on that side. The edge will be completely smooth.

Keep track of your strokes, because you will have to do the same ammount on the opposite side. After you have raised the burr on the opposite side even it out with about 40 x strokes YMMV. You should effortlessly cut arm har on both sides of the blade.

May sound crazy, but by gosh it works!

My bevels were the best I have had in a long time. Thanks for the tips Slash.

 

[kirk 988]

Thanx for this tip ill try it out this weekend.
i was thinking you were going to tell us about the 1k on slurry method thats great for chips

 

[Kentos]

Slash is a big proponent of that method, but never did try it myself. Any cons to the method in your opinion?

 

[Doc226]

Slash is a big proponent of that method, but never did try it myself. Any cons to the method in your opinion?

More metal removal is really the only the down side.

 

[Wid]

More metal removal is really the only the down side.

Just use tape

 

[Doc226]

Just use tape

Oh boy, you are going to get it. But I am really talking about removing metal from the edge (also from the spine-I don't tape)

 

[Raithskar]

I don't tape either, and i did not see any difference in bevel. it is still very thin on my Puma Special. It only took about 60 half strokes on one side to get the burr. This was from a razor that was dulled on glass though. On a resto razor or an old Flea Bay find, I would not try it until I had all my low grit work done.

At this particular point I do not see any downside to the method. If I run across anything I will share with everyone.

 

[alx gilmore]

A burr and a false edge are basically the same thing but to a different degree. The burr is proof that you are accessing with you hone the actual edge where the steel falls off into thin air, the false edge is a burr that has been finessed. Stropping will remove either but for razors stropping off a detectable burr will most likely break off the burr leaving a harsh edge where with stropping a false edge will wear it down to an acceptable thinness and a comfortable edge.

Burrs are noted in tool sharpening as a proof test, and it is best to carefully sharpen them off rather than break them off. The idea of a burr on a fine razor seems novel at first but we are always "working with" a burr if we realize it or not. Here we catagorize it as a burr when it begins to roll over on itself on one side and you can feel it, and this happens with concentrated stroke counts on one side only of the razor, whereas a false edge is developed by lighter strokes on fewer and alternate and equal strokes on either side of the blade so the burr/false edge remains more nutural. Again, developing a burr/wire edge or a false edge as Iwasaki-san describes, is proof to the honer that he/she is within a hairs breath of the two sides of the blade meeting with symmetry. Alx

 

[tinkersd]

Thank you for the tip!! I'll try it soonist my self, but I'm certain their are a number of traditionalist's out there haveing heart attacks right about now reading this Thread!

 

[Raithskar]

Thank you for the tip!! I'll try it soonist my self, but I'm certain their are a number of traditionalist's out there haveing heart attacks right about now reading this Thread!

Probably, but I was intriuged when I found out about it. I had to try it and it worked for me. Not to say it will work for everyone.

 

[redbreast]

Sometimes When i use this method i am having a hard time removing the burr after the half strokes. X strokes sometimes just dosent do the trick. Any other way to deal with the problem?

 

[Wid]

Sometimes When i use this method i am having a hard time removing the burr after the half strokes. X strokes sometimes just dosent do the trick. Any other way to deal with the problem?

Yeah, don't do it.

 

[Kentos]

I like taking off that false edge, not burr, with CBN on leather. It is my suspicion that expert passes on water accomplish the same thing.

As far as removing the burr, I think you are overdoing it. One pass should take it off well enough I would think.