Old school for me, if it works well and gives great shaves. Why change or add? Adding more soaps to already too many soaps, makes no sence for me. Cella (kilo) Arko (bowl pressed) Williams/ Dove is plenty soap for me.
Artisan's Vs traditional
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Yes you do, and I take full advantage. However, finding your products in South East Asia is a bit of task. That's why the hording.I can ship to APO's....
I like using traditional soaps on workdays and Artisan soaps on my days off.
After 47 years I guess my time is up!?
Haha! My first soap was COL Conk lime... I can still smell it mixed with that boar brush I had to break in!
I do NOT envy you! Breaking in natural hair brushes in definitely not one of the best smelling things in the world. Haha!
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Hi are you really a born again pastor because I'm also a believer in are lord and saviour jesus christ God bless you and yours
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Hi are you really a born again pastor because I'm also a believer in are lord and saviour jesus christ God bless you and yours
Are you really a born again pastor as i am believer in are lord jesus christ aswell God bless you and yours
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Hi are you really a born again pastor because I'm also a believer in are lord and saviour jesus christ God bless you and yours
Are you really a born again pastor as i am believer in are lord jesus christ aswell God bless you and yours
That's a very good reply all the very best
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I have to say the post shave and skin benefits of Grooming Dept are above everything else I’ve tried by a good margin.
The huge problem I have with Grooming Dept is I need more and can’t get any easily. I’m just not willing to become a fanboy and stockpile 36 scents and bases from my favorite maker, so I keep Haslinger Schafmilch on hand as my backup and I’ll probably always keep either Haslinger Schafmilch or Cella on hand as long as I can easily get my hands on them. I also keep Arko around in case I need to drain all the oils from my face mid-summer in Texas heat.
The huge problem I have with Grooming Dept is I need more and can’t get any easily. I’m just not willing to become a fanboy and stockpile 36 scents and bases from my favorite maker, so I keep Haslinger Schafmilch on hand as my backup and I’ll probably always keep either Haslinger Schafmilch or Cella on hand as long as I can easily get my hands on them. I also keep Arko around in case I need to drain all the oils from my face mid-summer in Texas heat.
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I've not tried many artisan soaps, but of those I've tried, nothing beats Mitchell's Wool Fat. The nearest I've found to in shave performance is Wickhams, but it's twice the price, and still doesn't compete on post shave. I've stopped chasing other people's recommendations now, and will stick with MWF long term, and just using the occasional sample for the sake of variety.
Hello Jim, Yes indeed unashamedly!
Can I ask what artisans soaps do you think were not up to the MWF? I'm asking because I'm debated on this subject as well.
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Off the top of my head, I know I've tried MdC, PdP, Phoenix & Beau, Wickhams 1912 (as mentioned above), a couple of local craft soap makers... then my memory fails
Might be more in my shave journal. I now there's a few creams in there. I'm sure this will lead to "don't write off artisans till you've tried X" type comments, but I've stopped chasing other peoples preferences.Ok thanks, but MWF is top in many people`s book as well.. so other people`s preferences may sometimes be good.
Well, at the moment I am erring towards artisan, but that's not to say that I don't keep some traditional stuff in my den.... although at the moment that would be only creams, Speick or St James of London. I do feel that artisan stuff does pay more attention to post shave feel and slickness, not to mention they are far more daring with scents.
At the moment here in Spain, we are living a sort of a golden era regarding artisan soaps. There's one particular guy who started very recently and still sells only via one of our forums. He is a very keen straight razor shaver (he actually despises shaving with anything else, he's a bit peculiar that way), and he decided he wanted to try his hand at making the best soap for straight razor shaving. I must say, his stuff is highly impressive, particularly for a newcomer who has gone from nothing to doing soaps in a very, very short amount of time. I wouldn't hesitate to put his stuff next to A&E or B&M. I know it is a bold statement but that's just how good the guy's soaps are. His line is called Daisho. If you ever get the chance to try it, don't hesitate.
In any case, in the end there's good soaps, bad soaps and mediocre soaps (and even such an absolute statement is actually quite relative depending on the user), and that's the same with old school and artisan ones.
At the moment here in Spain, we are living a sort of a golden era regarding artisan soaps. There's one particular guy who started very recently and still sells only via one of our forums. He is a very keen straight razor shaver (he actually despises shaving with anything else, he's a bit peculiar that way), and he decided he wanted to try his hand at making the best soap for straight razor shaving. I must say, his stuff is highly impressive, particularly for a newcomer who has gone from nothing to doing soaps in a very, very short amount of time. I wouldn't hesitate to put his stuff next to A&E or B&M. I know it is a bold statement but that's just how good the guy's soaps are. His line is called Daisho. If you ever get the chance to try it, don't hesitate.
In any case, in the end there's good soaps, bad soaps and mediocre soaps (and even such an absolute statement is actually quite relative depending on the user), and that's the same with old school and artisan ones.
traditional soaps are NOT going away anytime soon. Tabac, Palmolive, arko, derby, trumpers, taylors, mitchells, non of them are going away. Similar soaps as well.
Why? they have a standardized product. I can buy a stick of each in any country I go to that sells it, and the results will be the same, true each lot date may be slightly different in scent, but that's normal. Its hard to keep the scent perfectly the same between 3,000 pound batches.
a lot of so called artisans are not artisans in anyway. A lot of it is using melt and pour soap, and when its melted randomly throwing a lot of weird scents and oils into it.
barrister and man cant really be called artisan as they are a fully functional commodity that is doing what many other companies do.
Martin de Candre CAN be called an artisanal soap company. Not only by methods used, but by production quantity. And attitude.
some have called razo rock as artisan over the years, they isn't at all.
Why? they have a standardized product. I can buy a stick of each in any country I go to that sells it, and the results will be the same, true each lot date may be slightly different in scent, but that's normal. Its hard to keep the scent perfectly the same between 3,000 pound batches.
a lot of so called artisans are not artisans in anyway. A lot of it is using melt and pour soap, and when its melted randomly throwing a lot of weird scents and oils into it.
barrister and man cant really be called artisan as they are a fully functional commodity that is doing what many other companies do.
Martin de Candre CAN be called an artisanal soap company. Not only by methods used, but by production quantity. And attitude.
some have called razo rock as artisan over the years, they isn't at all.
Umm... some of them are dying off. Like Palmolive. It's not sold in stores in the UK anymore.
I don't think its quite the same. Drying out your skin produces an inflammatory reaction to various degrees. Better to have a less aggressive soap or cream in the first place that doesn't strip your skin.
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