A conscious life without money.

[Mojo88]

This Lady living without money remind me of relatives who are Adult Children who come to family Thanksgiving, or Christmas get together. All they bring is their appetites.

They never ask can we bring anything. Or stop to pickup a couple of 2L Bottles of Sprite, Coke or?


Best part is when they complain about host not having their favorite item.

We were having Thanksgiving at my in-laws home and my mother-in-law noticed that she didn’t have enough ice. She called my sister in law who runs chronically late and asked her to bring some ice as 12 people were going to be there. My sister in law showed up with 2 sandwich bags of ice, probably enough for 4 glasses. I told my wife don’t worry, my son and I went to a store that was open and got a 10 pound bag of ice. We moved away and I have to say I don’t miss the drama.

 

[Teutonblade]

"Having money isn't everything, not having it is." -Kanye West

 

[Toothpick]

Impossible unless you are completely off grid and self sustaining. But even those people have to sell things to get money.
In my experience the people that live without money do so because they are using yours, or someone else's.

 

[nortac]

Living without money = LOSERS/USERS

 

[Rhody]

In Star Trek, replicators have essentially rendered money obsolete, as the replicator technology gives everyone access to pretty much all the goods and services they require. Accumulation of wealth is virtually meaningless in such an economy. There are occasional references to "credits" on the show, so there may be instances where transactions must be made for rare or highly specialized items, but essentially the entirety of planet Earth is a post-money society. People are not required to work, but the vast majority do so for a sense of personal fulfillment and/or out of a sense of duty to society.

We need to invent the replicators asap.

 

[helicopter]

I grew up in Alaska. I have known tons of people who acted on various ideas adjacent to this. It is a place where lots of people go to attempt these things.

Money, capitalism, limited liability, stock ownership... these are some of the basic building blocks for developed modern humanity and the security and comfort it brings. Often misused, but we are not worse off for them.

I would rather have money and not haul water.

 

[Waistgunner]

Total BS!

 

[DesertIguana]

We were having Thanksgiving at my in-laws home and my mother-in-law noticed that she didn’t have enough ice. She called my sister in law who runs chronically late and asked her to bring some ice as 12 people were going to be there. My sister in law showed up with 2 sandwich bags of ice, probably enough for 4 glasses. I told my wife don’t worry, my son and I went to a store that was open and got a 10 pound bag of ice. We moved away and I have to say I don’t miss the drama.

Funny story, but sounds like real life some people live. Grifters.

 

[Nonspecific]

Some grifters make to the top echelons of society. Just look around. We’re still buying the snake oil….

 

[helicopter]

Impossible unless you are completely off grid and self sustaining. But even those people have to sell things to get money.
In my experience the people that live without money do so because they are using yours, or someone else's.

Completely off grid subsistence = stone age lifestyle. Living a reasonably comfortable and clean subsistence lifestyle off grid requires more money than living in a city. Sure, with a few hundred thousand dollars, you can get some land and build a rustic cabin in Fairbanks, Alaska and spend 80 hours a week hauling water, hunting, processing game, and cutting firewood. It will work fine as long as 50 of the hours are dedicated to your successful firewood business where you barter and sell a few cords of firewood every week for all of the things you need that you are unable to produce yourself. Downside is, even though you are often cold and uncomfortable, perhaps forego all non-sauna bathing, and use an outhouse, you are still totally dependent on cash, gasoline, diesel fuel, propane, and loads from Costco.

Source: grew up in Alaska in family that has rustic cabins in subsistence village.

 

[StillShaving]

In Star Trek, replicators have essentially rendered money obsolete, as the replicator technology gives everyone access to pretty much all the goods and services they require. Accumulation of wealth is virtually meaningless in such an economy. There are occasional references to "credits" on the show, so there may be instances where transactions must be made for rare or highly specialized items, but essentially the entirety of planet Earth is a post-money society. People are not required to work, but the vast majority do so for a sense of personal fulfillment and/or out of a sense of duty to society.

Maybe this is what Sam Altman thinks is in our future. I think Altman far too optimistic about LLM Artificial Intelligence and its impacts. Youtuber Sabine Hossenfelder made this video to comment about his vision....a future where hardly anyone can find work due to AI+Robot overlords running everything. I watched the video but could not really tell how much she agreed with Altman as she has a dry sense of humor. Probably not worth watching, but here it is:

 

[DesertIguana]

Well when I was a kid growing up in Florida we had a lot of Hobo's that camped not too far from our property, closest Rail Road Tracks. Once in a while a Hobo would show up seeking to do any work for a meal. We had large property that was like mini jungle, many palm trees, and there was always need to pickup, clean up, and get ride of the fallen palm Frans, weeds, etc.

My mother who put one of these Hobo to work, and give them noting but a meal in exchange for many hours work. Recall couple of time we knew it would rain overnight, so they the Hobo's were told if they like they could sty dry in our tool shed.

They ere always gone in am, never left a mess, never stop anything. These Hob's had scruple, ethics, and moral values. One guy I use to see all the time had Long Silver Hair, I nickname "SILVER" he was maybe 30ish, had fought in Korea. Looked like 60+, from the life of a Hobo. Apparently he was decorated War Vet, but never adjusted to normal life post war.

 

[Rhody]

Sounds like a young man’s game!
I suspect that an extremely attractive woman could live without (her) money somehow.

 

[Dtownvino]

I guess the only way to do so is to get 30-life with no chance for parol.

 

[H4nk]

The real story would be "Living With Money". Many people have retired with a boatload of retirement money. You throw in pensions and Social Security and now you have a real dilemma on your hands. I went back to work part-time and my income in retirement is more than I was making when I retired.
My son, the smartazz, gave me a page to write on titled "Thing I Would Do If I Had The Money That I Do"

 

[DesertIguana]

When I was inn late 20's befriend a young Doctor, he gave me crash course in Saving, and getting into Mutual Funds. Let say it was good advice, and retired young.

 

[Nonspecific]

It’s not money which is the evil, but the love of it that is the cause of many evils. And I do believe there are quite a few powerful people who have chosen which side they are on. So I commend people who live a life of small footprints as it pertains to financial aspirations; i on the other hand have been chosen by the cruel nature of a disability that I never asked for to be financially stunted, but alas it is how the cookie crumbles.

 

[roaduck]

I've always been independent and left home at 17 but I know a couple of old couples that have kidults that are terrible.

My neighbours at the bottom of the garden are in their sixties with two "children" in their thirties living with them and they give their parents a pittance - not even a peppercorn rent - do no housework or errands and expect their Mum and Dad to wipe their bottoms for the rest of their naturals.

The parents are always going shopping or to the rubbish tip or washing the pots, vacuuming, cleaning or being a taxi driver for them - It's so sad - they never have time or even money for themselves !

Another couple I know have a 42 year old son living at home and the Grandson stays a lot - they get no peace and tranquility.

The son bought an expensive car instead of saving up for an apartment deposit and rent in advance and he already has a 2 ton van and a good BMW estate car already - - It's a mad sad situation to behold.The parents are much too soft.

I have known both families for a long time and it breaks my heart seeing the exploitation and manipulation and emotional blackmail meted out on the poor long suffering parents.

I've been homeless - now I feed the homeless - so I know the score.

 

[Rhody]

I've always been independent and left home at 17 but I know a couple of old couples that have kidults that are terrible.

My neighbours at the bottom of the garden are in their sixties with two "children" in their thirties living with them and they give their parents a pittance - not even a peppercorn rent - do no housework or errands and expect their Mum and Dad to wipe their bottoms for the rest of their naturals.

The parents are always going shopping or to the rubbish tip or washing the pots, vacuuming, cleaning or being a taxi driver for them - It's so sad - they never have time or even money for themselves !

Another couple I know have a 42 year old son living at home and the Grandson stays a lot - they get no peace and tranquility.

The son bought an expensive car instead of saving up for an apartment deposit and rent in advance and he already has a 2 ton van and a good BMW estate car already - - It's a mad sad situation to behold.The parents are much too soft.

I have known both families for a long time and it breaks my heart seeing the exploitation and manipulation and emotional blackmail meted out on the poor long suffering parents.

I've been homeless - now I feed the homeless - so I know the score.

It’s not just the lazy probably manipulating kids. The parents are at fault. There’s deep problems that the kids weren’t raised to go and spread their wings. What happens at the end, the two kids fight over the house.

I have an in-law who lived on his own but would grift off the mom on the regular. With obvious lies. All
My life I’ve experienced people clouded by the dreams of Avarice.

 

[roaduck]

Maybe this is what Sam Altman thinks is in our future. I think Altman far too optimistic about LLM Artificial Intelligence and its impacts. Youtuber Sabine Hossenfelder made this video to comment about his vision....a future where hardly anyone can find work due to AI+Robot overlords running everything. I watched the video but could not really tell how much she agreed with Altman as she has a dry sense of humor. Probably not worth watching, but here it is:

If AI takes over who's going to do all the farming and where is the electricity coming from for the server farms etc when the Nuclear Power stations need decommissioning and Coal, Oil and gas is too expensive to extract ?

Where's the metal, plastic, ceramics, rare earths and batteries for the robots, cars and machines etc going to come from ?

There is only finite resources underground and on the land and it is far too expensive to recycle everything and dig up the landfill tips lol !

People are living in Cloud Cuckoo land - Things are going really pear-shaped Worldwide now !