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I originally started DE shaving before I got out of high school... and in the 70's to me, my Dad, and all my male relatives, shaving was a Gillette DE, a can of Foamy goo, and lots of little bits of TP for the nicks and weepers. I kept getting nicks and weepers even as I got better at shaving, eventually settling on a 4 setting on my adjustable, using the Gillette blades.

It was nothing to think of shaving with a Gillette DE, I mean everyone that was anyone to me as I was growing toward adult hood used one. I eventually switched to Edge gel, then went to the sensitive skin version cause no matter what, I still got some burn, and some weepers. In college I switched to a Trac II that the college gave us one year in a welcome pack.... I ended up with a couple so I gave Dad one. Still got burned, and nicks, and weepers, etc... so 3 blade carts, Yep, I did that... Kept doing it, and no matter what blade configuration, I still had issues. Even got some nicks using an electric! Now that smarted! Go figure. Got a sample of some King of Shaves oil... WOW much better, but still had problems sometimes. Switched to Shave creams and it was better, but not perfect, and not ever BBS, not even DFS, usually just a SAS. I ALWAYS had stubble around my windpipe area, and in the cleft of my chin there were a few stray hairs I never could get hardly.

I've been back to a DE for almost 2 full weeks now... With memories of my old Gillette adjustable, I kicked my Slim to a 4 and took off. After the blood letting I backed it off a bit and really focused on technique. I was getting better, I had my nicks and cuts to just slightly below where I got with my last 5 bladed monster... so very tolerable on the nicks and cuts charts, and it was a MUCH higher quality shave. But I knew I could do better. So I was waiting in Walmart the other day and I saw the VDH basic kit, you know the brush, bowl and soap set they have there. So I picked it up and a styptic pencil, all a very nice prices. That night I came on here and read a bunch on making a lather with the brush, and watched some of mantic59's vids on lathering, and next morning I hit it with my newly minted knowledge, and proceeded to make a mess. LOL I kept with the KMF shave cream that I'd been using brushless for a while, and kept the same focus on my technique I'd been using, but I hadn't made the lather very well, I'd used too much water and too little cream and it dried faster then before I used the brush, so basically I got the same kind of shave I'd been getting.

Came back here, and read more, watched more vids, and next morning focused on getting a better lather. All other things remained the same. Same blade, same KMF, same pre, during, and post shave routine... Only difference was brushing on a good, well made lather, and for one of the very few times in my life, no nicks, no cuts, no weepers. I didn't need the styptic I'd bought! Wow! And the shave! What a shave, Wasn't a full on BBS, but it was a DFS for sure. BBS on checks, jawline, and most of the neck.... Never had a shave that close that wasn't done by a barber with the full hot towel treatment.

Next morning, I almost didn't need a shave. When in the military, during the time I was at OCS, I had to shave twice a day the 5 o'clock shadow was so heavy. I honestly thought about skipping the shave that morning, but I really wanted to try my hand at lather again. Using the KMF, I worked up an even better lather than the previous morning, and proceeded to have 'almost' as good a shave. I say almost, because well, I just kept going. I pressed my luck. I'd been getting a very good shave before doing a 2 pass, WTG, and XTG, but this time I added in an ATG pass, and I got a bit carried away and ended up applying pressure, so I got 2 small weepers. Are you kidding me, amazing shave and only 2 very minor weepers. And the added closeness made my stubble even lower the next morning. After a few mornings I've got my lather building very nicely, and the shaves are improving even more. Maybe time to adjust back up to 4. :)

All I changed was adding in a brush. I may break down and actually try using the VDH soap instead of the KMF cream one morning. Makes me wonder if I had tried the brush back in the 70's if I'd have stayed with the DE longer? Nah, probably not, I was a young modern thinking progressive college man, and fully (or foolishly) buying into the hype that the advertising was feeding me.

Is this what starts the AD? Want to try a different brush? Different soap, or creme, or maybe a straight... :straight::thumbup1:
 
Ha ha, yeah. If you think that made a difference, try a good Boar like an Omega or Semogue, or an excellent value badger like the knots from thegoldennib or whippeddog. I've found them to make a big difference.
Honestly, before you buy anything try the soap AND the KMF at the same time. The KMF makes the soap lather better and the soap makes the KMF slicker. It's a great combo.
 
KMF ROCKS! I really didn't want to like the stuff, it's too readily available and didn't fit well with my elitist attitude about DE shaving. :biggrin1: I wish I had discovered it much sooner.
 

musicman1951

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Congratulations. Yes, this is how it starts - and you've obviously already started down the path. Keep thinking about another brush. . . read about some different creams . . . come to the dark side.
 
Grats on getting the great shave. I have a similar (although I started shaving in the early 90s) story to yours. Getting that brush and building your own lather instead of using canned goo makes a world of difference. I've now found that blades also make a huge difference. All the best with future shaves and whatever you do, don't visit the other sub-forums unless you have lots of money. And control. And don't like new-old shiny things. Like pens, tobacco, great food, awesome ways to dress, amazing cameras...

So who has the winning lotto numbers for tonight's LottoMax draw in Ontario? I could use a little boost... :p

Cheers,

M.
 
Great start! +1 on blades making a big difference and on not visiting the sub-forums unless you have lots of cash. But there are excellent budget ways to go: Arko shaving soap sticks, if the scent's okay with you (such as the Amazon.com deals, 15 sticks for $20 or $25--choose the deals that are eligible for free shipping); Bestshave.net for a wide variety of blades for cheap, as well as Arko and other shaving sticks for cheap; Connaught, for excellent brushes in the $20 range (including shipping); and either Bestshave, Connaught, or your local Indian grocery store for cheap alum block. Even though I've spent much more on exploring shaving soaps than I should, my first-year costs are no more than I would have spent on the Gillette Fusion, etc., and will be much cheaper from now on because I have the only razor and brush that I want and blades and soaps to last for years. Now, to face my kids' dental bills . . .
 
Ha ha, yeah. If you think that made a difference, try a good Boar like an Omega or Semogue, or an excellent value badger like the knots from thegoldennib or whippeddog. I've found them to make a big difference.
Honestly, before you buy anything try the soap AND the KMF at the same time. The KMF makes the soap lather better and the soap makes the KMF slicker. It's a great combo.

One of my hobbies, besides playing music, is painting. I know that in oil painting the quality of a good boar bristle makes a huge difference. So I was curious as to how the cheap VDH boar would do. I feared it would be like a cheap oil paint brush and lose it's hair constantly. It hasn't but at the same time I can see how a higher quality one would work out. I'd read a bit on the "super-lather" using the cream and soap combined. I think I'ma gonna hafta give it a shoot! :)

I also started with the VDH boar, which I'm sure a lot of people have. I found that it worked quite well with the VDH soap, but with creams I've found that a badger (also VDH) works so much better. I'm improving along with you!

I'm going to try it with the soap this weekend, see how that works out. I may really have to look into a badger.

Congratulations. Yes, this is how it starts - and you've obviously already started down the path. Keep thinking about another brush. . . read about some different creams . . . come to the dark side.

:D Already started down that path... LOL

.... whatever you do, don't visit the other sub-forums unless you have lots of money. And control. And don't like new-old shiny things. Like pens, tobacco, great food, awesome ways to dress, amazing cameras...
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Pens... Did you say pens.... I love fountain pens... and control isn't really my strong suite... thanks the forums at http://www.talkbass.com/ my wife jokes she never knows what basses I have. I think I've bought and sold a couple dozen by now! LOL
 
Love KMF cool mint! I went from a budget badger brush to a savile row 3824 and wow what a difference a brush makes. Lovin it!
 
Just wanted to say "Hi" and welcome to the wonderful world of DE wet shaving. I'm new myself and am having fun learning as well. I also play bass and spent time in the military, so it's good to see someone else with similar interests. Well, everything but the Reds. Life-long Brewers fan here.
 
Well, I went to my barber Friday evening for a haircut and we chatted as he trimmed. Trimmed my hair and goatee. Talked about shaving, etc... He's a good barber, but he does love to talk. :)

I get home and was running my fingers through my chin whiskers and noticed one side felt much longer than the other. I went to trim and clean it up a bit, and noticed in the mirror that I had some bald spots on my chin?? My wife said she'd noticed it before but keeping my whiskers longer had covered it. With the 'cover' shortened, I didn't like the way it looked, and if I tipped my head up at all it really looked funny to me. I was playing bass Sunday at our church and while no one may have noticed it, I was self conscious about it and decided to shave it. I had been considering it for several months now anyway, but this kinda drove it home. Funny thing is, my mustache was graying almost across the whole 'stache, but the chin whiskers were still pretty dark. Most folks my age that begin to get a little 'frost' in their hair seem to gray at the chin before the mustache. I always found that a bit odd in mine.

So on Saturday I got my clippers and trimmed the remaining whisker hair, prepped a lather, and off we go. While I'd had a few weeks to get my technique improved with my shave I'd not touched my chin with a razor in many, many years... I actually didn't do too bad, and even with my Kirk Douglas chin managed to get all the stubble without any flow of red, and on a week old Astra SP blade. :001_huh: It wasn't BBS, but it was DFS. So Sunday morning, fresh blade, second go on the chin, and still no blood letting on the chin area. Obviously I'm still working out the technique and angles for my chin, but overall not too bad. Just have to see how it works during the week when I feel I don't have quite as much time to be careful, as I do on the weekends.
 
Well, been trying the VDH soap, and frankly, I need work on my lather. I've had too much water, or something, most mornings and the lather would start to thin and dry out on one side before I finish the other one. I keep going to the lather tutorials and will keep working on it. This morning I attempted a super-lather with the addition of the KMF. Amazing how thick that lather came out, really great in the bowl, like the tutorial said I couldn't use the brush to wipe it away, but I think this morning I didn't have enough water. While it didn't thin out, it did dry a bit and I ended up feeling some pull from the razor.

I had been having enough great shaves that I opened up the razor to be more aggressive, and this morning I came out with a couple weepers and I took the top off a bump that I have on my chin. I'd had a goatee so long I'd forgotten about it. The bane of my morning routine when I was in the military. The combination of the increased thickness of the lather and the more aggressive setting on my razor, and I got a very fine BBS shave. Closest I've EVER gotten on a shave.

Over all not bad at all.... Now to practice that lather technique!
 
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