77 year wait is over !

[Tacheless]

A Male, British Tennis player has just won Wimbledon, 77 years after Fred Perry won it in 1936 !!! and a Fellow Scot to boot !!!! Way to Go Andy !!!!!

 

[Haggises]

Watched only the last game from when he was 40 love up.
nice job Andy!
At last, our long national nightmare is over!

 

[Niles]

Congrats to Andy Murray!

 

[SalvadorMontenegro]

So, not trying to rain on the parade, but here's something I don't get (serious question): the England, Scotland, United Kingdom, Great Britain relationship. When it's, like, soccer, you guys hate each other, right? But when it's tennis, the dude from Scotland is embraced by people from England, because he's not from somewhere off the island? Yes? No?

Edit: Maybe I'm confusing Scotland with Ireland. Too many 'lands, for me, I guess.

 

[Tacheless]

So, not trying to rain on the parade, but here's something I don't get (serious question): the England, Scotland, United Kingdom, Great Britain relationship. When it's, like, soccer, you guys hate each other, right? But when it's tennis, the dude from Scotland is embraced by people from England, because he's not from somewhere off the island? Yes? No?

Edit: Maybe I'm confusing Scotland with Ireland. Too many 'lands, for me, I guess.

When we play Football we are separate entities... Scotland v England.... In Tennis there is no Scotland England Wales or Northern Ireland. Just Great Britain... But us Scots like to remind the English where the Champions are from.... LoL !!!! Had Andy Murray lost today, The British Press would say The Scotsman let his nation down again.....

 

[Slash McCoy]

So, not trying to rain on the parade, but here's something I don't get (serious question): the England, Scotland, United Kingdom, Great Britain relationship. When it's, like, soccer, you guys hate each other, right? But when it's tennis, the dude from Scotland is embraced by people from England, because he's not from somewhere off the island? Yes? No?

Edit: Maybe I'm confusing Scotland with Ireland. Too many 'lands, for me, I guess.

Uh-oh.....

 

[SalvadorMontenegro]

When we play Football we are separate entities... Scotland v England.... In Tennis there is no Scotland England Wales or Northern Ireland. Just Great Britain... But us Scots like to remind the English where the Champions are from.... LoL !!!! Had Andy Murray lost today, The British Press would say The Scotsman let his nation down again.....

Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought. So, it's like: people from Boston hate Kobe Bryant, because he plays for the Los Angeles Lakers, but when he's playing for Team USA in the Olympics, they're all, "Pass the ball to Kobe!!!!!!" Or like the relationship of Barcelona fans to Madrid soccer players, until they're playing together for Spain's national team.

Anyway, congrats to Andy Murray and a sensational win for the people of India (because India was a part of the United Kingdom). Okay, I'm trolling. I'm done now! Seriously, congrats.

(And thanks for clarification. Jokes aside, I really am ignorant about this.)

 

[rajagra]

Edit: Maybe I'm confusing Scotland with Ireland.

You just incurred the wrath of a nation of angry whisky drinkers.

Spoiler

Maybe two.

/Ducks for cover.

 

[hwedin]

It's good that he won but I now feel quite sorry for him as now the whole of the British media will expect him to win all the time from now on.


I was also reminded of the Monty Python sketch where blancmanges(?!?) turned everyone into scotsmen so the blancmanges could win Wimbledon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMCNltgrs1U

 

[Haggises]

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt - some North American

 

[SalvadorMontenegro]

Nah. Then I'll never be enlightened and I'll always be a fool. Better to ask questions and learn.

 

[alias]

So, not trying to rain on the parade, but here's something I don't get (serious question): the England, Scotland, United Kingdom, Great Britain relationship. When it's, like, soccer, you guys hate each other, right? But when it's tennis, the dude from Scotland is embraced by people from England, because he's not from somewhere off the island? Yes? No?

Edit: Maybe I'm confusing Scotland with Ireland. Too many 'lands, for me, I guess.

Nah. Then I'll never be enlightened and I'll always be a fool. Better to ask questions and learn.

 

[SalvadorMontenegro]

What I am confused about is not the geography, but the tensions and relations between the countries. I was under the impression that people from Scotland considered people from England rivals and vice versa. Not to say that there was genuine hatred, but that they rooted against one another in sports events. So, to see a bunch of people from England jubilant over a Scotsman's victory at Wimbledon was a surprise to me.

My confusion about Scotland and Ireland was about their relationship to England, not to one another. I thought Scotland had poor relations with England, but then I thought maybe I was mistaken and that it's not Scotland, but Ireland.

This is not something that is taught to Americans in school, so I would have no way of knowing how these people feel about one another. I dated a French-African woman for a while and that's how I learned SOME about France and Africa. I have no present or previous association with Great Britain to know anything about it.

Anyhow, I have totally hijacked the thread now, so I'm absconding while I still can. The OP, tacheless, answered my question, anyway!

 

[Kevan]

When we play Football we are separate entities... Scotland v England.... In Tennis there is no Scotland England Wales or Northern Ireland. Just Great Britain... But us Scots like to remind the English where the Champions are from.... LoL !!!! Had Andy Murray lost today, The British Press would say The Scotsman let his nation down again.....

Shhh! Better hope no one from FIFA/UEFA is reading this board. They've been wanting an excuse to combine you guys into Great Britain since you take up four qualifying spots when you play football as separate nations, yet it doesn't seem to matter in the Olympics or tennis....

As for Murray, I am glad for him because he's finally got the monkey off his back, but now the papers will call him the best in the world, etc. etc.

 

[elverdiblanco]

As for Murray, I am glad for him because he's finally got the monkey off his back, but now the papers will call him the best in the world, etc. etc.

There's certainly a case for him being considered #1 in the world at the moment. Since he lost the Wimbledon final last year he's become reigning champion in 2 Slams (US Open and Wimbledon), won Olympic gold, reached the final of another Slam (Aus Open) and missed one due to injury (French Open).

 

[ouch]

Looking forward to another Brit winning in 2090.

 

[Doc4]

How soon we forget.

 

[Doc4]

So, not trying to rain on the parade, but here's something I don't get (serious question): the England, Scotland, United Kingdom, Great Britain relationship.

Heh.

They've been trying to sort that one out for a thousand years or more, and still haven't really sorted it.

(For the "football vs. tennis" thing, remember that football is a team sport but tennis is individual. If the Wimbledon final had been Andy Murray, Scotsman, vs. an Englishman ... I bet you'd have seen a different dynamic, more like the regional feelings seen in football.)