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195 or fatboy?

luvmysuper

luvmysuper

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razor_n_blade

razor_n_blade

It's become fairly well understood in the wet shaving subculture that the term "Fat Boy" refers to the "regular" thick handled adjustable razor, and that "195" refers to the rare bottom adjustable model. 195 is the official name for either version (because it was sold for $1.95), and the term "Fat Boy" was coined later -- perhaps in an effort to discern it from the Slim adjustable. By the way, "Slim adjustable" is the official name for that razor.
 
garyg

garyg

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Or, the Not So Slim Boy .. I bid on that one at the Bay, stopped way before $350 final sale price. Truly insane
 
Henrique

Henrique

razor_n_blade said:
It's become fairly well understood in the wet shaving subculture that the term "Fat Boy" refers to the "regular" thick handled adjustable razor, and that "195" refers to the rare bottom adjustable model. 195 is the official name for either version (because it was sold for $1.95), and the term "Fat Boy" was coined later -- perhaps in an effort to discern it from the Slim adjustable. By the way, "Slim adjustable" is the official name for that razor.
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+1. The term was coined in forums like this. But it's now widespread and should be used to name two different beasts.
 
gillette-razor

gillette-razor

razor_n_blade said:
It's become fairly well understood in the wet shaving subculture that the term "Fat Boy" refers to the "regular" thick handled adjustable razor, and that "195" refers to the rare bottom adjustable model. 195 is the official name for either version (because it was sold for $1.95), and the term "Fat Boy" was coined later -- perhaps in an effort to discern it from the Slim adjustable. By the way, "Slim adjustable" is the official name for that razor.
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It's correct. The official name for Fat Boy is Gillette 195 Adjustable Razor.
I've added these photographs of one from 1959 (E-4). The letter says >Gillette 195 Adjustable Razor< and had been signed from Vincent Ziegler at this time president of Gillette Company.
 
ouch

ouch

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gillette-razor said:
It's correct. The official name for Fat Boy is Gillette 195 Adjustable Razor.
I've added these photographs of one from 1959 (E-4). The letter says >Gillette 195 Adjustable Razor< and had been signed from Vincent Ziegler at this time president of Gillette Company.
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With all due respect, it doesn't matter if that letter was signed by Dirk Diggler.

For the purposes of selling a razor on Badger & Blade, the name "195" is to be used solely to describe the rare, bottom adjusting razor. Use of the term "195" to describe a standard Fat Boy is considered a misleading attempt to draw additional and unwarranted notice to the sale thread.
 
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thirdeye

ouch said:
With all due respect, it doesn't matter if that letter was signed by Dirk Diggler.

For the purposes of selling a razor on Badger & Blade, the name "195" is to be used solely to describe the rare, bottom adjusting razor. Use of the term "195" to describe a standard Fat Boy is considered a misleading attempt to draw additional and unwarranted notice to the sale thread.
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Just to concur, this discussion has come up in the past and like Jay said, we have all decided to use the term 195 to describe the rare bottom dial adjustable Gillette prototype model, thus leaving the term Fatboy to describe the very common top dialed fat handled Gillette adjustable.
 
garyg

garyg

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With all due respect, I think that anybody selling a Bottom Adjustment 195 is expecting a certain expertise in their potential buyers, or will certainly scare them with the price. Conversely, as long as there are pictures involved one would hope any sober B&B'er would be able to discern the location of the adjustment ring on both 195's .. In my very humble opinion, banning the correct model number to protect a buyer from getting a 195 Fat Boy when they expected a 195 Bottom adjust is not even on this side of stoopid (sp).

Just my 2 cents, YMMV, :001_smile
 
ouch

ouch

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Right. I guess this wouldn't be misleading, then.

For sale- brand new Ducati. Never used. $50
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Now, if I posted this, do you think that someone might have looked, thinking that a motorcycle was for sale?

You can call it stoopid or whatever, but we just want to standardize the nomenclature. Nothing has been banned.

Call it whatever you want, just don't sell it in the b/s/t as a 195. Pretty please, with sugar on top.
 
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luvmysuper

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My understanding here is that the Thread Title is in question here, that saying you have a 195 for sale in the thread title makes more people look at that particular thread than would have if it had been listed as a Fatboy.

I can understand that reasoning, though I look at virtually every new thread in the BST regardless of what the title is because sometimes people forget to mention an item in the title.

Even if I didn't understand that reasoning, it's not my board, and if the administrators of the board have a set rule, I have little choice but to follow it, or post my stuff on some other board.

When I visit someones house I don't put my feet up on the coffee table there, even though I do at home.
 
Maher

Maher

luvmysuper said:
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Even if I didn't understand that reasoning, it's not my board, and if the administrators of the board have a set rule, I have little choice but to follow it, or post my stuff on some other board.

When I visit someones house I don't put my feet up on the coffee table there, even though I do at home.
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Agree. This is the way to do it, do as the master of the castle wants or take your business somewhere else. The mods reasoning after reading their replies is to protect new users and is correct. When I posted my FS it wasn't my intention to draw any extra clicks on my threads, not at all, I am not the type to coy or "bate" my stuff, it is for the sake of being correct, and in this case, I am correct on paper but not by understanding. Relisted my thread as requested.

respectfully,

Maher
 
Grimakis

Grimakis

Maher said:
yes it is. 195 is exclusive for the bottom adjust rare one and Fatboy for the other upper adjust ...
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Why can't the Fatboy be referred to as the 195, and the bottom adjust as the 195 Special? It seems stupid to prevent a common product from being called by its model name/number. In pen collecting, there are many pens that have multiple variants, some rare, some worthless. We simply identify them as what they are, we don't choose ambiguous names and then try to limit them to specific models.

The Ducati example is not really similar at all. A better example would be to say "2008 Ford Mustang for Sale", but fail to state whether it has the V6, or the V8 engine. It would seem silly to call only the V8 a Mustang, while the V6 would be called a Pony.(Or some other name thought up by a car community)

People should be able to say what they want, so as they are not lying. If someone that has the bottom adjust wants to draw attention, perhaps they should call it the "195 bottom-adjust". The confusion and rules surrounding fatboy nomenclature seems to be a failure within the community that no one wants to correct.
 
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garyg

garyg

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This seems to be a "Because I Said So, That's Why" situation, from which only the select emerge unscathed :001_rolle
 
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