Does anyone know the stone Ohzuku 12K (http://gx2.japan-messer-shop.de/pro...kyoto--koernung-mehr-als-12000-ozl1277.html)? Any news about? Can a newbie use this stone?
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it is impossible to tell if the stone is hard or not just by looking at pictures.looks like an Oozuku Asagi (oozuku refers to the mine -indicted by the stamp, asagi refers to color)
this will be a very hard stone
It is not about the hardness really it is more about what people expect from the stone when people have no experience to gauge their expectations.It's only my opinion...but a stone being "to hard for beginners" is junk.
It is not about the hardness really it is more about what people expect from the stone when people have no experience to gauge their expectations.
Some guys expect that a Jnat will magically put an edge on the razor just by waving the blade above the stone, we all know how well that works. I have witnessed cases of shot expectations by people that have no idea what is going on but jump in with both legs in the really deep.
it is impossible to tell if the stone is hard or not just by looking at pictures.
OP make sure to ask those guys if they have tested the stone on razor and also what is their return policy if it does not work for you.
I'll agree people should not expect a stone to work like magic but that could be said for any natural stone...
I've only seen the "experienced user only" when it's related to jnats (and only recently at that)
Here's a example, JNS has a Ozuku Asagi Lv 5+ listed as "very hard stone experienced user only"
He also has a Wakasa Lv 4,5 listed with no such disclaimer.
So to some, it must not be completely about people expectations..
its a stone.... of course its hard....
if you don't think all stones are hard let me chuck a couple at you.... lol....
Does anyone know the stone Ohzuku 12K (http://gx2.japan-messer-shop.de/pro...kyoto--koernung-mehr-als-12000-ozl1277.html)? Any news about? Can a newbie use this stone?
+1The idea of "only for expert user" come from experience of selling stones now quite a long time, i had many examples where i sold hard stone to beginner and they complained about they cant use it ! Then i send it to experience user and they tell me its the best stone they ever try
And usually lv 4 or 4, 5 stones is easier to come after coticule or other low grit stones. So it become after some costumer experience, nothing we just come up with out of the blue
How to test without stone been lapped:
Well of trying more then 1000 of stones, after you try more then 5000 stones and use them years after years every day you get a pretty good idea how they are
But still even now i have to lap some stones to see exactly how they are. When i started i had to do it with every stone.
Also been in Jnat business for a while now i see it very funny how some become "experts" of Jnats when they just was newbies and asked me many questions couple of month before.