I don't know about "my argument" cuz it looks like to me, that we agree with each other and are on the same page ideologically. It's only our perceptions on the details about, "how do we get there" that we are discussing my good friend. I'm sure, we both like to wear blue jeans without any wrinkles, we can assume, some ironing is in order.
When someone sits in a firearms permit class in Texas, what are they telling them, about understanding the law, when it pertains to carrying a firearm? If I make a list of what the class you sat in to obtain your license teaches, what did they tell you or inform you of, that you honestly didn't already know, before taking the class?
1. Safe firearm storage?
2. Where one can carry and where they can't?
3. The 5 basic rules of firearms safety? ( which every firearm comes with by the way, regardless if it's carried or just owned. )
4. Basic handgun and operational instructions?
5. Discussing the laws and penalties of when self defense is authorized and when it is not? (texas has had concealed carry for decades. Have the percentages of actual cases showed, this isn't already common sense and usage?)
There are all ways going to be the below .1 percentage of the carry population who will ignore common sense and class instruction and do something bone headed. But that will always be considered as isolated incidents where no amount of prevention would alter it.
However, the facts or large percentages show, conceal carry classes and what they teach, including the basic laws and operation of the firearm is and can be considered common sense knowledge.
Please click this link and read this. And click the link within that shows the increases and decreases of firearm classes when it pertains to the actual use and incidents of deadly outcomes pertaining to permit and permitless carry incidents.
very eye opening.
The Effects of Firearm Safety Training Requirements
Analysis of the impact of firearm safety training requirements on gun-related outcomes in the United Stateswww.rand.org
If I put your fingerprints into a records system, to show me if you are a criminal or an law abiding citizen what will it show me? It will show, you are either, "who you say you are" or that you are lying, because the information you gave, doesn't match your prints correct?
So if the print matches what you say, how does that help keeping anyone safer? you are a law abiding citizen and your prints match that. If you are a criminal and you already know you got prints showing that you have spent time in a department of corrections facility, are you going to go thru the trouble of using your prints or even falsifying information to obtain a legal firearm?
as a criminal, if i really wanted to carry a firearm, i think I would just avoid all of that and just start carrying an illegal or stolen firearm? Either one, isn't going to make it anymore or any less dangerous for me on a traffic stop in the middle of the night. I'm going to watch your hands and what you do, no matter how legal or illegal you are or how suspicious or unsuspicious you act, until that dispatcher verifies to me "who you are and who you are not."
I bet every law abiding citizen in Texas, who knows the law and who doesn't know the law, knows exactly what those signs mean.
I bet every criminal in Texas, who doesn't care or give a crap about the law, knows what those signs mean.
So you are telling me, a criminal can walk into a Texas gun show, purchase a firearm from a table or someone else and then walk out of that gun show without anyone checking the gun he bought or him? They have no other system in place to prevent this?
of course the licensed dealers need to do a background check. The private sellers as far as I know are making a transaction like you or I could. I also know there are ATF agents and non uniformed police in the crowd as well. You need to come on down for one Rob.
