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Arkansas Love...Let's see those Arks!

I have a bid on a nice black translucent. Sellers pics have a flashlight against it and it’s almost see through. Should be an interesting stone.
 

Chan Eil Whiskers

Fumbling about.
That’s a classic woodworkers stone setup if I’ve ever seen one, so 90% chance it’s been previously used with either a mineral oil or some type of solvent up to kerosene weight and simple green will probably clean it up just fine.

Washitas go out of flat much faster than the harder Arkansas stones, but you’re still talking maybe annual reflattening in HARD daily woodworking use... it should still really be a flatten once or confirm flat and go stone for razors. For yours specifically it looks like you may want to bevel off the edges a smidge while you’re checking for flat.

As far as the leather on top the rough side out is a giveaway for it being a tool/knife use stone. You could just buy a nice piece of veg tanned leather and replace it with a smooth leather strop.

I just honed up and shaved with this one straight out of the eBay sellers packing:
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It looks dirty but this is after scrubbing with Dr Bronners and confirming flatness. The grey looking areas are the “pepper” mentioned above and that section of stone is noticeably faster/coarser feeling than the bottom orange streaked region. It’s a 2x6, totally unlabeled but close enough to dimensionally perfect to be a Lower grade Norton.

The one you posted is probably a step up in consistency and finishing ability than my picture, but hard to say without testing. It’ll probably be able to flatten a bevel in no time with pressure and some half strokes, and if you finish on it with no pressure X strokes you’ll probably be able to jump to your finishing arks perfectly. If you’ve never done a good natural midrange progression you’re in for a treat! If you’ve previously tried Coti to Ark, it’ll be similar just a bit different.

Thanks so much.

I've honed on the Double Convex Ark 8x3 razors which were already sharp, just getting them DCA sharp, using both sides of the DCA.

I've also reset chipped or not well set bevels on the Chosera 1K and then gone directly to the soft side of the DCA. Finished on the hard side of the DCA of course. No stones other than the DCA and the Chosera.

I've also reset a bevel on a coticule, honed til done on the coticule (my patented Dilucot Oil Honing method), then finished on the DCA.

Never used any natural stone softer than the ones just mentioned. I know the Washita will be a new experience. Thanks for the answers and tips.

I have a piece of stropping leather which might be perfect (or I might save it and find something which will "do.").

Happy shaves,

Jim
 

timwcic

"Look what I found"
My Novaculite Family Portrait​
But no matter what I finish on, when my blades start to loose there keenness and tug, they visit one of my hard arks. Arks deliver a finished edge that are unique only to themselves. With that statement of Ark love, here are some highlights of my collection of hard Arkansas stones. All are vintage stones and were found in wild over years of hunting. Each one made my day when I found and rescued. I have a few more floating around, but this bakers dozen are my highlights. Out of these 13, I have my sexy six. The ones I play with most. The first is my 9” porcelain white Novaculite. Then a big 9” surgical black from the late 1800’s. The next is a 8” transitioning translucent. Followed by my beauties, three butterscotch translucents. The last is more canary yellow, but I call it butterscotch. The one in the box with the initials is dated Sept, 1897

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My Novaculite Family Portrait​
But no matter what I finish on, when my blades start to loose there keenness and tug, they visit one of my hard arks. Arks deliver a finished edge that are unique only to themselves.

Nice collection! You guys make me feel better about my HAD. I could maybe swing a “sexy 6” over the next few years, but some of you seem to have a “sexy 32” or some other impressive collection. I think if I acquired that many my wife would divorce me and take half with her.
 

Chan Eil Whiskers

Fumbling about.
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My Novaculite Family Portrait​
But no matter what I finish on, when my blades start to loose there keenness and tug, they visit one of my hard arks. Arks deliver a finished edge that are unique only to themselves. With that statement of Ark love, here are some highlights of my collection of hard Arkansas stones. All are vintage stones and were found in wild over years of hunting. Each one made my day when I found and rescued. I have a few more floating around, but this bakers dozen are my highlights. Out of these 13, I have my sexy six. The ones I play with most. The first is my 9” porcelain white Novaculite. Then a big 9” surgical black from the late 1800’s. The next is a 8” transitioning translucent. Followed by my beauties, three butterscotch translucents. The last is more canary yellow, but I call it butterscotch. The one in the box with the initials is dated Sept, 1897

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I'm beginning to hate enjoy this Arkansas porn thread about as much as I do the various straight razor picture threads.

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David

B&B’s Champion Corn Shucker
I never get tired of seeing that T.H.P stone. Very nice family of Arks, Tim
 
I gotta stop coming here
You all are enabling my hone acquisition syndrome. Two convex arks, a coti, and an the hard white ark all in under 30 days.

Vendor's photo.

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In transit. Won @ auction today.

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That a bit of strop on top of the box (on the left).

Link to product information.

Assuming this is a good Washita my Ark collection is complete.

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I'm not sure if I should attempt to clean this stone by soaking it in Simple Green and such. Any advice?

Also, do you typically lap a vintage Washita? I would assume they need lapping only if a straight edge test shows they aren't entirely flat, but I want to know more than my uninformed opinion.

Any suggestions on cleaning and restoring the little strop area on top of the box, shown in the bottom photo, on the left?

Happy shaves,

Jim

Thanks so much.

I've honed on the Double Convex Ark 8x3 razors which were already sharp, just getting them DCA sharp, using both sides of the DCA.

I've also reset chipped or not well set bevels on the Chosera 1K and then gone directly to the soft side of the DCA. Finished on the hard side of the DCA of course. No stones other than the DCA and the Chosera.

I've also reset a bevel on a coticule, honed til done on the coticule (my patented Dilucot Oil Honing method), then finished on the DCA.

Never used any natural stone softer than the ones just mentioned. I know the Washita will be a new experience. Thanks for the answers and tips.

I have a piece of stropping leather which might be perfect (or I might save it and find something which will "do.").

Happy shaves,

Jim

I sealed my washita , same label after I jacked it up, with spray shellac, it then tolerated simple green soak, scrub and wash, they tend to load up and the scrubbing decreases need to re lapp
 

Chan Eil Whiskers

Fumbling about.
I gotta stop coming here
You all are enabling my hone acquisition syndrome. Two convex arks, a coti, and an the hard white ark all in under 30 days.

Speaking for myself and most gentlemen around these parts...

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I sealed my washita , same label after I jacked it up, with spray shellac, it then tolerated simple green soak, scrub and wash, they tend to load up and the scrubbing decreases need to re lapp

So, let me make sure I understand you.

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You spray over the label and the area around the label, using something like this. Then you let it dry for a while. Then soak the stone in Simple Green (and maybe use paper towels and maybe do this a number of times).

The idea is to protect the valuable label and also get the stone nice and clean.

Is this about right for cleaning a vintage Washita stone (such as the one I have in transit)?

Thanks and happy shaves,

Jim
 
This is my washita
guessing it’s one of the good ones?

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So, let me make sure I understand you.

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You spray over the label and the area around the label, using something like this. Then you let it dry for a while. Then soak the stone in Simple Green (and maybe use paper towels and maybe do this a number of times).

The idea is to protect the valuable label and also get the stone nice and clean.

Is this about right for cleaning a vintage Washita stone (such as the one I have in transit)?

Thanks and happy shaves,

Jim

Yes we have exact same stone. I scratched an messed up my label with a shallow soak and scrub. I tape honing surface the couple coats of shellac. Over a couple of hours. The Japanese Use cashew shellac. I then soaked with simple green and scrubbed it, with dish brush an scotch bright and was amazed how white I got it!!! Label preserved! I’ll post photo tomorrow, Yes rattle can shellac. I lapped off any over spray
 
Scored at a B&M. Norton black translucent hone. Haven't gotten to really experiment with it though. From a barber estate so it was already burnished from use.

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Part of my Arkie collection, Washitas in the back, Soft in front of those and an end slab Black from Dan's. the foreground translucent was also an end cut that I cut into a bench stone.
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Part of my Arkie collection, Washitas in the back, Soft in front of those and an end slab Black from Dan's. the foreground translucent was also an end cut that I cut into a bench stone.
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My Dans black is a “primative” cut too. Is the translucent Dans?
 

duke762

Rose to the occasion
My Novaculite Family Portrait

Blown away by this thread!!!

Timwcic, I'm stunned, literally stunned by your butterscotch candy store!! Question I always have is were they mined that color or get that way through some process. I've never seen a newly mined butterscotch. If some one has one please post it! If you have any insights to the butterscotch stones coloration, I'd like to hear them as well.

No stone left behind....I've got my best heavy lifters here and I have no clue as to what they specifically are. I have an 8 x 3 x1 Dan's, regular hard Ark (should have posted for comparison) that by most characteristics would be hard to find in this bunch without trying them all. Appearances aside, these stones really perform for me. All are lapped identically, each is an individual.

Pic#1 - Top is a Pike's #1 for comparison.

Below it is a very pale, nearly white, grainy looking, very fine and cutting, fairly translucent as shown in picture #2.

Below that is an old piece of something with a blue streak that has set bevels where all the others failed!

Bottom I believe is a soft, behaves nicely for me.

I believe the 2 hardest stones are the far left and far right. Far left is one of my favorite hones. I mean every one I see on Ebay with this coloration, my ears wiggle. It's not the fastest of the lot and has a very homogeneous look to it......and translucence as shown in picture #2. I need to conjure an SG test on it and it's brown cousin on the far right. Far right sharpens everything, pruning shears last week. Fiendish cutter but reluctant to dish

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Heck yeah we should just flood this thread with rough cuts!

Is this one from Dan’s as well?
It is from Dan’s. I picked it out from a huge bin of primitive stones he had yesterday at the 2019 GA Blade show. Dan’s had a small vendors booth set up there. Lots of fun being able to hand select my stone.
 
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