It might be that they have another brand that they own and La Toja was competing with it so they are putting it out of business. Coca Cola bought up a lot of other soft drink companies and put them all out of business. Pabst did that with Stroh's.
My initial plan was 12x creams + 12x sticks (still valid should I be lucky). If not, I'm getting 24x sticks.Stock up on the stick now if you like it.
It's soap, it doesn't really go bad...and if the cream is hermetically sealed it will last many years before drying up. I just finished a cream at least 5 years old today.@Marco So you're going to buy all that up, taking it off the market and surely you'll use it all before it expires in 2 years, maybe pushing to 3 before it's potential garbage?
Buying all of that certainly instantly sweetens the vendors' bottom lines and clears inventory, but cuts out a lot of other people from an opportunity to enjoy a discontinued product.
Thanks!
I think that so long as you yourself can buy the soap, someone else's stocking up should not affect you. If anything, knowing that there's a limited supply should lead you to stock up yourself yourself while you still can. As for the take - "instantly sweetens the vendors' bottom lines" - I have never understood why doing good for some other party negates the good you do yourself by buying. Commerce, by definition, has to be mutually beneficial to be possible in the first place. And interestingly, the common approach by vendors is to discount prices on discontinued products to clear inventory space for new products.@Marco So you're going to buy all that up, taking it off the market and surely you'll use it all before it expires in 2 years, maybe pushing to 3 before it's potential garbage?
Buying all of that certainly instantly sweetens the vendors' bottom lines and clears inventory, but cuts out a lot of other people from an opportunity to enjoy a discontinued product.
Thanks!
Wise words written by a wise man. Thank you very much, my friend.I think that so long as you yourself can buy the soap, someone else's stocking up should not affect you. If anything, knowing that there's a limited supply should lead you to stock up yourself yourself while you still can. As for the take - "instantly sweetens the vendors' bottom lines" - I have never understood why doing good for some other party negates the good you do yourself by buying. Commerce, by definition, has to be mutually beneficial to be possible in the first place. And interestingly, the common approach by vendors is to discount prices on discontinued products to clear inventory space for new products.
Regarding expiration, soaps and creams can have their lifetime extended with basic proper storage.
Finally, as to hoarding... we are almost all inclined towards shaving acquisition disorders. If you are able to restrain more credit to you. But, given the forum, it may be a lost cause.
@Marco So you're going to buy all that up, taking it off the market and surely you'll use it all before it expires in 2 years, maybe pushing to 3 before it's potential garbage?
Buying all of that certainly instantly sweetens the vendors' bottom lines and clears inventory, but cuts out a lot of other people from an opportunity to enjoy a discontinued product.
Thanks!
yeah, that's fair. My apologies.
Surely the members of all the online shaving forums combined are but a small percentage of the actual shaving products global consumer-base. Probably one person buying two dozen or two hundred of a product isn't going to make a dent in or deter the mainstay of the public from access.
Wise words written by a wise man. Thank you very much, my friend.
Indeed, praises to Marco, and for that matter, to steelwindmachine for apologizing directly. That is the conduct of a man.Marco is one of the most selfless, decent folks I have ever had the pleasure of being associated with. Any implication that he is somehow being greedy or self centered is so far off base as to be the epitome of absurdity.
Thank you. It takes a man of decency and integrity to apologize in public for what is said in public. It's appreciated!
To all the other members who pointed out their perspective on the point, thank you, but mostly for doing so in a gentlemanly and civil manner that would make Marco, the consummate gentleman, proud.
Honestly this year is really turning out to be a tough one for wet shaving. I already have acquired two soaps from artisans that quit this year. (i don't really need more soap. SAD is real). I have decided if I get any more soap I will support the ones that are in business.I think that so long as you yourself can buy the soap, someone else's stocking up should not affect you. If anything, knowing that there's a limited supply should lead you to stock up yourself yourself while you still can. As for the take - "instantly sweetens the vendors' bottom lines" - I have never understood why doing good for some other party negates the good you do yourself by buying. Commerce, by definition, has to be mutually beneficial to be possible in the first place. And interestingly, the common approach by vendors is to discount prices on discontinued products to clear inventory space for new products.
Regarding expiration, soaps and creams can have their lifetime extended with basic proper storage.
Finally, as to hoarding... we are almost all inclined towards shaving acquisition disorders. If you are able to restrain more credit to you. But, given the forum, it may be a lost cause.
A huge THANKS for the beautiful words spent upon myself, Phil. And thank you kindly for handling these delicate situations with your usual elegance and style, which I have always deeply admired and respected. Very truly yours, Marco.Marco is one of the most selfless, decent folks I have ever had the pleasure of being associated with. Any implication that he is somehow being greedy or self centered is so far off base as to be the epitome of absurdity.
Thank you. It takes a man of decency and integrity to apologize in public for what is said in public. It's appreciated!
To all the other members who pointed out their perspective on the point, thank you, but mostly for doing so in a gentlemanly and civil manner that would make Marco, the consummate gentleman, proud.
Grazie di cuore, amico mio.You are quite welcome. To be perfectly honest, I did not know it was you until you replied. I am still so used to seeing your name accompanied by that barber from Sweeney Todd!
Indeed, praises to Marco, and for that matter, to steelwindmachine for apologizing directly. That is the conduct of a man.
I am quite afraid that LEA could be the next one leaving wet-shaving market.
Dear Sir, I very much agree with what you've just declared above. Lea is a TRUE Spanish brand, founded in 1823. And with exactly 200 years of history it really seems unlikely that they would discontinue any product in their line. Their shaving soap is good and their creams are good, too. But the drawback is, at least for me, that they've never reached the excellence of La Toja. For me La Toja soap and creams are just superior performers in every way and for this reason I doubt that Lea will ever replace La Toja in my den. As always, IMHO.Call me an optimist, but it seams like Lea (check here: History LEA Products - https://www.productoslea.com/en/history/) is a company that has deep roots in Spain and for whom shaving products form part of their core business.
That is unlike La Toja, which after the acqusition by Henkel became part of a conglomerate headquartered in some other country for which shaving products are only a minuscule part of their business that is easily jettisoned if not profitable enough.
Lea always used to play second fiddle to La Toja in my den, but now it seems it might take La Toja’s place.
B.