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New Zenith Manchurian 506A

My favorite boar brush is a Zenith, and I've been curious about their badger brushes, particularly the Manchurians, for some time. I pulled the trigger on a white handled 506A with a gold ring from Your Shaving. It was a bargain at $65 including shipping to the US (after using a 10% discount coupon). Shipping was considerably quicker than I expected, with the brush arriving within two weeks and while I was away traveling. Yesterday I unpacked it and gave it a quick test lather. It has a modest amount of badger funk but I didn't think it was enough to warrant any special treatment. For the most part, with animal hair brushes, I just use fragrant soaps for the first dozen or so uses. It masks most of the smell until that smell fades.

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Today was the actual shave with the new brush. I soaked it for 5-10 minutes in warm water, shook it out well and began building lather using Shannon's Haymarket Vetiver soap. I noticed, as I had with the test lather, that it required me to add quite a bit of water in order to keep it from being too pasty. Perhaps it would do better with a less vigorous shake after the soak. Sometimes I bowl lather and sometimes I go directly to my face with the loaded brush. Today was a face lathering day. As expected, the Zenith Manchurian has quite a bit of backbone as well as a bit of scritch. In that respect it reminds me quite a bit of my old Simpsons Duke 2 Best Badger brush. Flow through was excellent and the ergonomics of the handle were perfect for me. I should also note that during the test lather and for today's shave, the brush did not lose a single hair.

For a while I had been favoring smaller brushes, but for whatever reason I am now in a bigger brush phase. The Zenith is comparable in size to my Yaqi Moka 26mm 2 band badger, but I find it slightly easier to control it on my face, perhaps because it is a bit stiffer. After only one shave, it's too soon to say where this brush fits in my "hierarchy" but it is already very near the top, and I expect it to only improve in my estimation as it breaks in.
 

Chan Eil Whiskers

Fumbling about.
Congratulations. Great brush.


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I have two Zenith Manchurians.

The wooden handled brush came to me broken in, but it's still changed over time. Improved over time. The brush was a gift from a member who moved entirely to synthetics. To ask why would be looking a gift horse in the mouth.

The Manchurian with a copper handle was purchased new and has been through many stages so it's been a very interesting ride.

Both are excellent brushes in all respects.

For the record, both are now very soft. All the scritch has turned into delicious scrub.

You're in for a treat.

Happy shaves,

Jim
 
I guess you will end up liking it more and more :)

I rarely pick the Moka Express nowadays as it blooms SOOO big but the 506 stays compact and scrubby and is my main rotation.

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That's interesting, because I have had exactly the opposite experience. After only 1 shave my Zenith Manchurian has bloomed considerably more than my Yaqi Moka Express has after many, many uses. I think it proves my belief that the variation in badger knots within a given brand and style is often greater than the variation between brands and styles. Here are current photos of the two:

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Congratulations. Great brush.


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I have two Zenith Manchurians.

The wooden handled brush came to me broken in, but it's still changed over time. Improved over time. The brush was a gift from a member who moved entirely to synthetics. To ask why would be looking a gift horse in the mouth.

The Manchurian with a copper handle was purchased new and has been through many stages so it's been a very interesting ride.

Both are excellent brushes in all respects.

For the record, both are now very soft. All the scritch has turned into delicious scrub.

You're in for a treat.

Happy shaves,

Jim
Jim has the shape/look of the knot in the copper handle changed much since this picture? It's interesting how much more compact it looks compared to the wood-handled knot (I didn't look up the models to see if there's a posted difference in loft).
 

Chan Eil Whiskers

Fumbling about.
Jim has the shape/look of the knot in the copper handle changed much since this picture?

No, not much if any.

It's interesting how much more compact it looks compared to the wood-handled knot (I didn't look up the models to see if there's a posted difference in loft).

Indeed.

The smaller knot has a much larger between shaves bloom. During the shaves the copper's knot seems plenty large of course.

I like both brushes. They are similar in some ways but certainly not twins by any means.

Happy shaves,

Jim
 
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Quick update - after about 18 shaves, the knot has indeed softened. For the first 10 shaves or so, it was gradually losing some prickliness that was not quite uncomfortable, but which distracted from the pleasure of using the brush. Now that prickliness is entirely gone and the brush is thoroughly enjoyable to use.
 

Phoenixkh

I shaved a fortune
Quick update - after about 18 shaves, the knot has indeed softened. For the first 10 shaves or so, it was gradually losing some prickliness that was not quite uncomfortable, but which distracted from the pleasure of using the brush. Now that prickliness is entirely gone and the brush is thoroughly enjoyable to use.
Mine broke-in in a similar fashion. I only have a couple badger brushes but this one holds its own against the others. Mine has the 506 copper handle. I just love the shape of the handle.
 
My favorite boar brush is a Zenith, and I've been curious about their badger brushes, particularly the Manchurians, for some time. I pulled the trigger on a white handled 506A with a gold ring from Your Shaving. It was a bargain at $65 including shipping to the US (after using a 10% discount coupon). Shipping was considerably quicker than I expected, with the brush arriving within two weeks and while I was away traveling. Yesterday I unpacked it and gave it a quick test lather. It has a modest amount of badger funk but I didn't think it was enough to warrant any special treatment. For the most part, with animal hair brushes, I just use fragrant soaps for the first dozen or so uses. It masks most of the smell until that smell fades.

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Today was the actual shave with the new brush. I soaked it for 5-10 minutes in warm water, shook it out well and began building lather using Shannon's Haymarket Vetiver soap. I noticed, as I had with the test lather, that it required me to add quite a bit of water in order to keep it from being too pasty. Perhaps it would do better with a less vigorous shake after the soak. Sometimes I bowl lather and sometimes I go directly to my face with the loaded brush. Today was a face lathering day. As expected, the Zenith Manchurian has quite a bit of backbone as well as a bit of scritch. In that respect it reminds me quite a bit of my old Simpsons Duke 2 Best Badger brush. Flow through was excellent and the ergonomics of the handle were perfect for me. I should also note that during the test lather and for today's shave, the brush did not lose a single hair.

For a while I had been favoring smaller brushes, but for whatever reason I am now in a bigger brush phase. The Zenith is comparable in size to my Yaqi Moka 26mm 2 band badger, but I find it slightly easier to control it on my face, perhaps because it is a bit stiffer. After only one shave, it's too soon to say where this brush fits in my "hierarchy" but it is already very near the top, and I expect it to only improve in my estimation as it breaks in.
Where did you get it for that price
 
Just this past week I did re-handle one of these. Owner dropped the brush and a big chunk broke off. Made a new one
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How would you say the Zenith Manchurian knot compares to the Shavmac 2 band silvertip and D01 badger knots?

I love the Zenith Manchurian, especially for its backbone. I plan on ordering some customs from you this year and not sure which of the 2 badger knots to choose from. I’d like one that has similar backbone to the zenith Manchurian (though if I’m being honest with myself, eventually I’ll end up with both knots 😄)
 
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Rudy Vey

Shaving baby skin and turkey necks
How would you say the Zenith Manchurian knot compares to the Shavmac 2 band silvertip and D01 badger knots?

I love the Zenith Manchurian, especially for its backbone. I plan on ordering some customs from you this year and not sure which of the 2 badger knots to choose from. I’d like one that has similar backbone to the zenith Manchurian (though if I’m being honest with myself, eventually I’ll end up with both knots 😄)
I just did the re-handle for someone, I did not use or test the knot. Maybe from the looks and feel it is more a two-band silvertip than the D01-2 band.
 
How would you say the Zenith Manchurian knot compares to the Shavmac 2 band silvertip and D01 badger knots?

I love the Zenith Manchurian, especially for its backbone. I plan on ordering some customs from you this year and not sure which of the 2 badger knots to choose from. I’d like one that has similar backbone to the zenith Manchurian (though if I’m being honest with myself, eventually I’ll end up with both knots 😄)
I have a Zenith Manchurian, but it was made to my specifications so I am not sure how it compares to yours. Mine is a 31x57 mm with zero glue bump, you can see it here: Zenith Manchurian 31x57.
It was my first Manchurian and to my surprise the hair was softer than I expected. While it is not floppy at all, it is definitely more gentle and it splays more easily than both my 30x58 mm Shavemac 2-band Silvertip and my 30x60 mm Shavemach 3-band D01. I would say that it is closer to my 30x60 mm Shavemac 3-band Silvertip, than to the other two. By the way, I consider it among my best brushes.
I know that Zenith usually goes with a 51mm loft and a higher glue dot so maybe yours does not behave like mine, however if the hair is the same, yours should be softer than the one used by Shavemach for the 2-band and the D01.
I have a 50/50 Silvertip-Manchurian as well, 31mm knot with no glue bump, and that one is also not comparable to those two Shavemac's: Zenith Silvertip-Manchurian
 
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