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Strike Industries developing interesting new kit...
Too much good stuff out here.
Strike Industries developing interesting new kit...
@OkieStubble, you happy with your inforce? I had one years ago and the case cracked out on me from just house and storage movements, and some static range work. there was no stress put on that rifle or light. I washed my hands of them and didn't even bother with a claim.
I am happy with the Inforce I have “now.” Like you, I bought the original Inforce APL years ago after their first release. It was only a 200 lumen light and the thin case Also cracked with very little effort, same as yours.
I then went and bought an Haley Strategic Inforce WML which upgraded with a bit thicker and rugged housing, along with an extra 100 lumens giving me 300.
While it could take a beating externally, the internals up and just quit working for me. Could never figure it out and get it working again.
Now, years later with a lot of lessons learned and technological advances, they make their housings with what they call, a glass reinforced nylon 6.
This allows for a lightweight and durable construction. It is also impervious to dust, sand, mud and dirt and is waterproof, not water resistant, but waterproof, up to 66 feet.
The newer model I have is the WMLX. It comes in a shorter 400 lumen and longer 800 lumen models. I think bright white high lumen high output weapon lights are over kill for inside work, and can possibly help to be a buzz kill during outside work, so I have the smaller 400 lumen model.
While it’s still probably not indestructible, most working things are not that are not named “Glock.” But for what you get? A hot white tactical light that is probably the lightest weight in the business, gives off Surefire brand type light, is probably the most ergonomically and user friendly weapons light made? Easily mounted, put on and taken off with a tightening of a small knob and pinch of the mounting rails?
And at an affordable price compared to a Surefire or Streamlight or type in most other brands here?
What’s not to love? For the money, if it breaks, I’ll just very quickly, slap on the other spare I keep in my backpack.
+1 on everything you just said. Absolutely concur. And lol’d @ “vertigo inducing.”ok. that makes more sense. I never got comfortable with the ergos before mine broke. my setup's heavier and brighter, but I'm happy with what I have. I can C clamp and run it steady or vertigo inducing disco light. I'll hang a pic when I get home, whenever that happens to be.
and I absolutely agree on the indoor washout. and bangers are fun too.
+1 on everything you just said. Absolutely concur. And lol’d @ “vertigo inducing.”
Would love to see a pic of your set up.
You got the light and pressure switch for only $125?
wow, good price.
So a decent light is on my Christmas list this year.maybe $150, but yeah, it was a heck of a sale and as a package
Not daylight bright illumination for that price point? Otherwise, very nice package.
I think sometime people try to make their carbine setups so well-rounded they don't have a point. Jack of all trades is nice, but there are limits on how sensible it is. At some point jack of all trades must be balanced against "he who plans for all plans for none."
The trend now seems IMO to err to far towards "generalist" and forfeits a lot of utility to do so.
What does that mean for optics? It means that a LPVO might actually be a pretty poor choice for some applications. Where does the LPVO shine? Hunting. You'll have a wide FOV, can see movement, and have time to dial up a bit more magnification. The key distinction here is that you are choosing the time and place of engagement.
For a defensive carbine, you have no such choice of time or place. The nature of defense is that you are reacting rather than acting. You won't have time to adjust your LPVO or set the brightness level or any of that. And defense is necessarily close range. At close range you will likely be point shooting or nearly so. You need an aiming system that is as fast as possible to get a sight picture. That means you can't have a reflex site where you can't "find the dot". The fastest sighting system is one in which you have the maximum range of angular error and can still see a sight picture. That's something like a Ghost Ring. Some red dots allow a large range of angle that still make the dot visible and are similarly fast. Others will have you trying to "find the dot" and might be a poor choice.
Finally, a word on lights. A bright and tough tactical light on your defensive rifle is weight and money well spent. Not only can it save someone's life by assisting target ID, but it might keep you from even having to fire your rifle, which is a huge win. If you can freeze someone in place with a blinding light, you've successfully incapacitated them with a nonlethal means. That means no legal liability, no baggage for the rest of your life about having killed someone (regardless how much they deserved it or how justified it was). It means no risk of overpenetration. There are no good shots in your own home, just ones that are less terrible.
The chances of needing your carbine at night vs daytime are not 50/50. It's more like 80/20. Get a light.
So even if you have to get by with MBUS flip up sights for a while to do so, a LIGHT is far more important than any optic. Invest in a quality light with a good interface. (something like the Cloud Defensive setup comes to mind). That light adds FAR more value than any sight upgrade above the MBUS does. A man with a good light and cheap but effective sights is miles ahead of one running a LPVO with no light. Don't balk at $300 for a weapon light when you gladly shelled out $500 for a LPVO that is less important on a defensive carbine. You'd be better off selling the LPVO to fund the light and go with the MBUSs until you can get back to an optic.