The holes work just fine and look cool to boot, especially in copper. I am sure that if Above the Tie says the new design is an improvement it is, but I did not think improvement was needed. I seriously doubt that in real live shaving you could fault the holes design. I do not know what sort of gunk others use, but my lather does not clog anything.Okay I'm getting a better picture now with all of the help.
Wondering about the holes on the plate for the lather channels, are you guys getting along with those ?
That's a good report.The holes work just fine and look cool to boot, especially in copper. I am sure that if Above the Tie says the new design is an improvement it is, but I did not think improvement was needed. I seriously doubt that in real live shaving you could fault the holes design. I do not know what sort of gunk others use, but my lather does not clog anything.
So @nav this from your original post which design is that one, the classic or Windsor?
"I should begin by stating the original H plate is not only the perfect setting for me in terms of efficiency, but it's actually my #1 most favorite razor out of the 80+ I've used over the last 14 years!!"
Will doSorry, I was referring to the Windsor (H1) plate, not classic.
You can see the full review of this plate in the link posted in my OP.
I recently got the Windsor Pro SB90 in Aluminum and I feel the same way. I feel like this razor was made just for me. I find it perfect. Over the last 8 years I've tried at least 55 razors of all types and the Windsor Pro is by far my favorite. Great razor.
I have taken quite a liking to aluminum razors. Based on this thread, @shave/brush recommendation, other B&B discussions, and seeing an interview on YT with @Above The Tie I could not resist picking up a Windsor Pro SB90 myself. It arrived in today's mail. I used it with the Astra SP supplied by ATT. What a great efficient razor. Here I am at the end of the day, still BBS; not a hint of whisker growth.
I have only one complaint about this razor: Ineedwant one in blue.
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Are you going to end up with duplicate plates?Ok , got a SSRH w/Atlas handle polished complete razor and the SSH1 polished plate only on order. These should give me a good try of these.
Appreciate the help through the difference models, it was a bit confusing.
The letters and all get a bit confusing to me.Are you going to end up with duplicate plates?
Edit...never mind. One between R and H and one H. Nice.
Excellent review got the Windsor Pro SB90 which is a very nice shaver on the heavy side but I'm getting some great shaves out of it I've been hearing good things about the Aluminium SB 90 which is on my wishlist nowI'm back, with a review of the newly released ATT Windsor base plates.
The razor is made from 303 stainless steel, in the USA.
For comprehensive information on the original Windsor and Windsor Pro models, please check out my previous review:
REVIEW: Above-The-Tie (ATT)...The all new Windsor Pro SS & AL (and Windsor original) - https://www.badgerandblade.com/forum/threads/review-above-the-tie-att-the-all-new-windsor-pro-ss-al-and-windsor-original.597502/#post-10966106
The updated Windsor razor design is fairly similar to the original Windsor in terms of handles, head design, geometry etc.
The main differences being the blade gaps and lather channels.
The original consisted of three plates;
M- 0.25mm
R- 0.58mm
H- 0.91mm
ATT have streamlined these settings and reduced to two levels;
SSMR- 0.40mm
SSRH- 0.80mm
I should begin by stating the original H plate is not only the perfect setting for me in terms of efficiency, but it's actually my #1 most favorite razor out of the 80+ I've used over the last 14 years!!
It's very comfortable on the skin where I can hardly feel the blade in the skin, i.e. There is zero blade chatter! But it's an incredibly deep cutting razor! What I mean by this is that it gives me the closest BBS that lasts into the evening AND the lowest level of what I call "post shave shadow" (guys with lighter skin and dark stubble will know what I'm talking about here!).
The new SSRH 0.80mm plate retains the DNA of the original Windsor...There is zero chatter, incredibly smooth shaving and deep shaving! The reduction in efficiency from the H plate is barely noticeable. The closeness of the shave is the same with just a tiny reduction in the duration of the BBS closeness. The comfort is however increased with the SSRH. I literally couldn't tell there's a blade in the razor! Even for sensitive skin, the SSRH would be a great choice, therefore I wouldn't classify this razor as "aggressive" because it's simply not! I classify it as "efficient" & "comfortable".
The SSMR 0.40mm plate is admittedly too mild for me. I use only Polsilver blades and I was still able to achieve a DFS result, which is surprisingly more than I would expect from a 0.40mm blade gap. Comfort wise, I probably couldn't tell the difference whether there was a blade installed or not! I mean, for anyone prone to skin issues/irritation, this is a marvelous choice!
I did try this plate with a Feather blade and it definitely increased the efficiency level to what I would say was DFS+ (i.e. closer than DFS but not longer lasting)! And the Feather was totally tamed by this razor! It felt like an ACTUAL Feather!
The lather channels on the new plates have been changed from ten small holes to two long channels. I personally prefer the small holes due to the unique look but the new longer channels are a tad easier to rinse out so I can definitely understand why ATT made this change.
I don't think my photos do justice to actually how gorgeous the Hand Polished finish is.
It's like a mirror finish and it is absolutely beautiful. My wife jokingly said we can display it on a shelf at our entry foyer (although she may not have been joking but I didn't dare clarify!).
The Atlas handle is 3 inches and absolutely the most perfect razor handle I've ever used. It's an absolute pleasure to hold with deep and comfortable barberpole knurling. The diameter is perfect, not too thick but enough that it feels like a natural extension of the hand.
(The Calypso handle is basically a longer Atlas for those that prefer a slightly longer handle).
I believe ATT will be releasing new open comb plates for the Windsor model so I look forward to that.
ATT are the OG of high quality razors but even after ten years, they have their fingers on the pulse of the razor market and have delivered what I would consider is a very universal razor suitable for the vast majority of shavers.
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Excellent review got the Windsor Pro SB90 which is a very nice shaver on the heavy side but I'm getting some great shaves out of it I've been hearing good things about the Aluminium SB 90 which is on my wishlist now
I'm back, with a review of the newly released ATT Windsor base plates.
The razor is made from 303 stainless steel, in the USA.
For comprehensive information on the original Windsor and Windsor Pro models, please check out my previous review:
REVIEW: Above-The-Tie (ATT)...The all new Windsor Pro SS & AL (and Windsor original) - https://www.badgerandblade.com/forum/threads/review-above-the-tie-att-the-all-new-windsor-pro-ss-al-and-windsor-original.597502/#post-10966106
The updated Windsor razor design is fairly similar to the original Windsor in terms of handles, head design, geometry etc.
The main differences being the blade gaps and lather channels.
The original consisted of three plates;
M- 0.25mm
R- 0.58mm
H- 0.91mm
ATT have streamlined these settings and reduced to two levels;
SSMR- 0.40mm
SSRH- 0.80mm
I should begin by stating the original H plate is not only the perfect setting for me in terms of efficiency, but it's actually my #1 most favorite razor out of the 80+ I've used over the last 14 years!!
It's very comfortable on the skin where I can hardly feel the blade in the skin, i.e. There is zero blade chatter! But it's an incredibly deep cutting razor! What I mean by this is that it gives me the closest BBS that lasts into the evening AND the lowest level of what I call "post shave shadow" (guys with lighter skin and dark stubble will know what I'm talking about here!).
The new SSRH 0.80mm plate retains the DNA of the original Windsor...There is zero chatter, incredibly smooth shaving and deep shaving! The reduction in efficiency from the H plate is barely noticeable. The closeness of the shave is the same with just a tiny reduction in the duration of the BBS closeness. The comfort is however increased with the SSRH. I literally couldn't tell there's a blade in the razor! Even for sensitive skin, the SSRH would be a great choice, therefore I wouldn't classify this razor as "aggressive" because it's simply not! I classify it as "efficient" & "comfortable".
The SSMR 0.40mm plate is admittedly too mild for me. I use only Polsilver blades and I was still able to achieve a DFS result, which is surprisingly more than I would expect from a 0.40mm blade gap. Comfort wise, I probably couldn't tell the difference whether there was a blade installed or not! I mean, for anyone prone to skin issues/irritation, this is a marvelous choice!
I did try this plate with a Feather blade and it definitely increased the efficiency level to what I would say was DFS+ (i.e. closer than DFS but not longer lasting)! And the Feather was totally tamed by this razor! It felt like an ACTUAL Feather!
The lather channels on the new plates have been changed from ten small holes to two long channels. I personally prefer the small holes due to the unique look but the new longer channels are a tad easier to rinse out so I can definitely understand why ATT made this change.
I don't think my photos do justice to actually how gorgeous the Hand Polished finish is.
It's like a mirror finish and it is absolutely beautiful. My wife jokingly said we can display it on a shelf at our entry foyer (although she may not have been joking but I didn't dare clarify!).
The Atlas handle is 3 inches and absolutely the most perfect razor handle I've ever used. It's an absolute pleasure to hold with deep and comfortable barberpole knurling. The diameter is perfect, not too thick but enough that it feels like a natural extension of the hand.
(The Calypso handle is basically a longer Atlas for those that prefer a slightly longer handle).
I believe ATT will be releasing new open comb plates for the Windsor model so I look forward to that.
ATT are the OG of high quality razors but even after ten years, they have their fingers on the pulse of the razor market and have delivered what I would consider is a very universal razor suitable for the vast majority
So ATT aren’t just adding the SSMR and SSRH plates in addition to the M,R,H plates, but are phasing out the 3 plates mentioned?I'm back, with a review of the newly released ATT Windsor base plates.
The razor is made from 303 stainless steel, in the USA.
For comprehensive information on the original Windsor and Windsor Pro models, please check out my previous review:
REVIEW: Above-The-Tie (ATT)...The all new Windsor Pro SS & AL (and Windsor original) - https://www.badgerandblade.com/forum/threads/review-above-the-tie-att-the-all-new-windsor-pro-ss-al-and-windsor-original.597502/#post-10966106
The updated Windsor razor design is fairly similar to the original Windsor in terms of handles, head design, geometry etc.
The main differences being the blade gaps and lather channels.
The original consisted of three plates;
M- 0.25mm
R- 0.58mm
H- 0.91mm
ATT have streamlined these settings and reduced to two levels;
SSMR- 0.40mm
SSRH- 0.80mm
I should begin by stating the original H plate is not only the perfect setting for me in terms of efficiency, but it's actually my #1 most favorite razor out of the 80+ I've used over the last 14 years!!
It's very comfortable on the skin where I can hardly feel the blade in the skin, i.e. There is zero blade chatter! But it's an incredibly deep cutting razor! What I mean by this is that it gives me the closest BBS that lasts into the evening AND the lowest level of what I call "post shave shadow" (guys with lighter skin and dark stubble will know what I'm talking about here!).
The new SSRH 0.80mm plate retains the DNA of the original Windsor...There is zero chatter, incredibly smooth shaving and deep shaving! The reduction in efficiency from the H plate is barely noticeable. The closeness of the shave is the same with just a tiny reduction in the duration of the BBS closeness. The comfort is however increased with the SSRH. I literally couldn't tell there's a blade in the razor! Even for sensitive skin, the SSRH would be a great choice, therefore I wouldn't classify this razor as "aggressive" because it's simply not! I classify it as "efficient" & "comfortable".
The SSMR 0.40mm plate is admittedly too mild for me. I use only Polsilver blades and I was still able to achieve a DFS result, which is surprisingly more than I would expect from a 0.40mm blade gap. Comfort wise, I probably couldn't tell the difference whether there was a blade installed or not! I mean, for anyone prone to skin issues/irritation, this is a marvelous choice!
I did try this plate with a Feather blade and it definitely increased the efficiency level to what I would say was DFS+ (i.e. closer than DFS but not longer lasting)! And the Feather was totally tamed by this razor! It felt like an ACTUAL Feather!
The lather channels on the new plates have been changed from ten small holes to two long channels. I personally prefer the small holes due to the unique look but the new longer channels are a tad easier to rinse out so I can definitely understand why ATT made this change.
I don't think my photos do justice to actually how gorgeous the Hand Polished finish is.
It's like a mirror finish and it is absolutely beautiful. My wife jokingly said we can display it on a shelf at our entry foyer (although she may not have been joking but I didn't dare clarify!).
The Atlas handle is 3 inches and absolutely the most perfect razor handle I've ever used. It's an absolute pleasure to hold with deep and comfortable barberpole knurling. The diameter is perfect, not too thick but enough that it feels like a natural extension of the hand.
(The Calypso handle is basically a longer Atlas for those that prefer a slightly longer handle).
I believe ATT will be releasing new open comb plates for the Windsor model so I look forward to that.
ATT are the OG of high quality razors but even after ten years, they have their fingers on the pulse of the razor market and have delivered what I would consider is a very universal razor suitable for the vast majority of shavers.
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I’m brand new to ATT but have been reading up on old threads, and it does seem odd they never released OC plates for the Windsor. Silly me, I just posted in another thread with hopes that there were Copper OC plates that were/are available.I was referring to the fact that the Windsor has been out for several years now with no open comb option to date.
Not the best or easiest names for continuity.S1 and S2 are double edge slants
SE1 and SE2 are single edge (standard)
X1 is the single edge slant
I’m new to the ATT family and I noticed that when I placed an order with them yesterday. If I had been an ATT user for 5-10 years now, my patience would have worn thin that it took that long for them to come out with open comb plates. Here’s hoping they develop the open plates in copper but with the old copper plates being discontinued who knows.Windsor open combs can be pre-ordered
The naming system isn't the best right now. They need to phase out the older M-R-H plates first.