I got an email from classic shaving today that describes blade aggressiveness and explains the difference. It was a really good article. Is there anyone who would like me to copy it into this thread. I was thinking it might help new people. I just dont know if there is anyone who would want it. I can also forward the email to anyone if they send me a message .
DE agressiveness email I received
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I'd be happy to see it posted here
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It is difficult to describe the way a razor feels when it glides across the skin, but both the feeling and performance are classified by safety razor aggressiveness. There are several factors that affect how aggressive a safety razor is and how it performs. The size of the blade gap, the amount of blade that is exposed, and the cutting angle dictated by the design of the safety razor affect the way it shaves. This article simplifies cutting head designs to quantify safety razor aggressiveness.
Mild Safety Razor
A mild safety razor has a cutting head that is designed to limit the amount of force that is transferred to the blade’s edge. Usually this includes a smaller blade gap that exposes a small amount of the double-edge blade. In addition, the design of the safety bar is a wider angle to allow the blade to cut beard growth without making significant contact with the surface of the skin.
Many men find these razors very comfortable and less likely to cause irritation or nicks during shaving. Mild razors are preferable for many men with very sensitive skin or men with lighter texture beard hair that can easily fit through the small blade gap. Men with thicker beard stubble may dislike a mild razor because they know when they can’t feel the blade against their skin that the razor is not cutting enough hair and they may have to go over the same spots many times in order to get a clean shave. In addition, thicker beard growth may clog the small blade gap and take longer to shave.
Good examples of a mild safety razors is the Feather All Stainless. This razor is designed to be very gentle on the skin and provide mild shaves.
Medium Aggressive Razor
Medium aggressive safety razors have an average blade gap and expose a reasonable amount of blade edge. A medium aggressive razor provides the shaver a good balance between mild and aggressive, allowing the razor to cut efficiently without causing excessive irritation or increased probability of cuts and nicks. Medium aggressive regulars typically utilize a standard safety bar design that allows the blade to cut the beard hair cleanly while disallowing the cutting edge to make more contact with the surface of the skin than necessary.
Many of the most popular razors on the market today fall into this category because most wet shavers benefit from a good quality medium aggressive safety razor. Beginners should start with a medium aggressive razor to become accustomed to using a safety razor and shaving at the proper angle. By starting here, a beginner will get an idea of what works best for his skin type and then can experiment with other razors to tailor the results.
Examples include the Parker 99R and Old World Razor "Shadow". These are excellent razors that cut well enough for tough beards without being overly harsh on the skin.
Aggressive Safety Razor
An aggressive razor is one that has a larger gap and more blade exposure, which allows more hair to enter between the razor’s edge and the safety bar, so it cuts through the beard quickly and with fewer strokes. Because more blade is exposed, these razors are harsher on the skin and can have a distinctive scratchy feeling, particularly during finishing passes when the length of stubble is very short and the blade makes closer contact with the skin. These razors are usually favored by men with very thick beard stubble that have a difficult time getting a close shave without having to do a number of passes and touchups. While aggressive razors do a great job of eliminating stubble quickly, some men can have issues with nicks and irritation on more sensitive areas of their faces, such as the lower neck. The increased gap and blade angle allows the cutting edge more contact to the surface of the skin during the shave. However, many men with sensitive skin get very good shaves from aggressive razors because they benefit from fewer passes across the skin.
An example is the Merkur Slant Bar, which is intentionally modified to have a more aggressive cutting action. Open-comb razors are also considered to be more aggressive because the comb guard allows the blade to make closer contact with the skin when cutting.
Final Thoughts
Although a razor may technically fall into the mild, medium, or aggressive classification, this still may not predict how the razor will perform for each individual. The choice of blades is a key part of the shave and significantly affects the speed and comfort of the shave. In addition, the technique of the shaver (i.e., holding the safety razor, cutting angle, and amount of pressure applied) can affect the aggressiveness as well.
Some men have found the perfect razor and blade combination that work for them every day. I have a variety of razors to choose from that range from the Occam's, which I hardly feel the blade, to the Merkur Slant, which cuts down weekend shagginess in one pass. To determine which razor I choose depends on how much beard growth I have and how my skin feels on any particular morning. If I am shaving 24 hours’ growth and just need a mild and comfortable shave or if I am shaving off a few days’ worth of stubble determines which razor I may choose. The design of the razor’s cutting head is just another choice for the wetshaver among the lineup of decisions: Soap or cream? Fragrance? Blade? Pre-shave? Aftershave? Straight or DE? Mild or aggressive? All of these choices affect the feeling and performance of your shave and combine to give you a unique experience each morning.
Mild Safety Razor
A mild safety razor has a cutting head that is designed to limit the amount of force that is transferred to the blade’s edge. Usually this includes a smaller blade gap that exposes a small amount of the double-edge blade. In addition, the design of the safety bar is a wider angle to allow the blade to cut beard growth without making significant contact with the surface of the skin.
Many men find these razors very comfortable and less likely to cause irritation or nicks during shaving. Mild razors are preferable for many men with very sensitive skin or men with lighter texture beard hair that can easily fit through the small blade gap. Men with thicker beard stubble may dislike a mild razor because they know when they can’t feel the blade against their skin that the razor is not cutting enough hair and they may have to go over the same spots many times in order to get a clean shave. In addition, thicker beard growth may clog the small blade gap and take longer to shave.
Good examples of a mild safety razors is the Feather All Stainless. This razor is designed to be very gentle on the skin and provide mild shaves.
Medium Aggressive Razor
Medium aggressive safety razors have an average blade gap and expose a reasonable amount of blade edge. A medium aggressive razor provides the shaver a good balance between mild and aggressive, allowing the razor to cut efficiently without causing excessive irritation or increased probability of cuts and nicks. Medium aggressive regulars typically utilize a standard safety bar design that allows the blade to cut the beard hair cleanly while disallowing the cutting edge to make more contact with the surface of the skin than necessary.
Many of the most popular razors on the market today fall into this category because most wet shavers benefit from a good quality medium aggressive safety razor. Beginners should start with a medium aggressive razor to become accustomed to using a safety razor and shaving at the proper angle. By starting here, a beginner will get an idea of what works best for his skin type and then can experiment with other razors to tailor the results.
Examples include the Parker 99R and Old World Razor "Shadow". These are excellent razors that cut well enough for tough beards without being overly harsh on the skin.
Aggressive Safety Razor
An aggressive razor is one that has a larger gap and more blade exposure, which allows more hair to enter between the razor’s edge and the safety bar, so it cuts through the beard quickly and with fewer strokes. Because more blade is exposed, these razors are harsher on the skin and can have a distinctive scratchy feeling, particularly during finishing passes when the length of stubble is very short and the blade makes closer contact with the skin. These razors are usually favored by men with very thick beard stubble that have a difficult time getting a close shave without having to do a number of passes and touchups. While aggressive razors do a great job of eliminating stubble quickly, some men can have issues with nicks and irritation on more sensitive areas of their faces, such as the lower neck. The increased gap and blade angle allows the cutting edge more contact to the surface of the skin during the shave. However, many men with sensitive skin get very good shaves from aggressive razors because they benefit from fewer passes across the skin.
An example is the Merkur Slant Bar, which is intentionally modified to have a more aggressive cutting action. Open-comb razors are also considered to be more aggressive because the comb guard allows the blade to make closer contact with the skin when cutting.
Final Thoughts
Although a razor may technically fall into the mild, medium, or aggressive classification, this still may not predict how the razor will perform for each individual. The choice of blades is a key part of the shave and significantly affects the speed and comfort of the shave. In addition, the technique of the shaver (i.e., holding the safety razor, cutting angle, and amount of pressure applied) can affect the aggressiveness as well.
Some men have found the perfect razor and blade combination that work for them every day. I have a variety of razors to choose from that range from the Occam's, which I hardly feel the blade, to the Merkur Slant, which cuts down weekend shagginess in one pass. To determine which razor I choose depends on how much beard growth I have and how my skin feels on any particular morning. If I am shaving 24 hours’ growth and just need a mild and comfortable shave or if I am shaving off a few days’ worth of stubble determines which razor I may choose. The design of the razor’s cutting head is just another choice for the wetshaver among the lineup of decisions: Soap or cream? Fragrance? Blade? Pre-shave? Aftershave? Straight or DE? Mild or aggressive? All of these choices affect the feeling and performance of your shave and combine to give you a unique experience each morning.
very good write up thank you for sharing 
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Classic shaving sends out good emails. Just sign up for their email list. I'm glad others are finding it useful.
I don't agree with the blade angle illustration. To me, that's handle angle -- the blade cutting angle usually isn't the same.
The article also stated that just because a razor falls in one of the categories, that may not predict the razors performance. So, beware, YMMV. 
Very good. Thanks for posting.
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Glad it is a good read for you guys
It would be nice if manufacturers provided the exact dimensions of their razors so that we could make objective decisions about them.
I strongly disagree with the article.
This is simply marketing bull***t.
I would gladly put this people in "Do not do business with" list.
YMMV
This is simply marketing bull***t.
I would gladly put this people in "Do not do business with" list.
YMMV
What part do you disagree with?
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Unfortunately I cant weigh in on that as I don't know much at all about safety razors. To me it made a lot of sense and I thought it might help other new people understand what is being talked about .
Indeed, far too many shavers rely on handle angle rather than blade angle.
First and foremost we should not have a term like "razor aggressiveness". The we should not write articles about that and distribute them on the Internet as scientific literature.
The person who wrote the above clearly have no idea how things work! - "Open-comb razors are also considered to be more aggressive because the comb guard allows the blade to make closer contact with the skin when cutting."
Don't need to read any further, indeed.
The only complaint that I would have is about the diagrams being vague or wrong.
And the nonsense about OC razors.
Even so, I don't see that a a reason to put them in the "Do not do business with" list, but rather a reason to unsubscribe from them.
Well, that is what one can see in the mirror while shaving.
They just need to inspect the blade angle with respect to the handle, and then compensate.
Or just listen.
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Rhody
I'm a Lumberjack.
This could be true if you press the oc razor into your face really hard....First and foremost we should not have a term like "razor aggressiveness". The we should not write articles about that and distribute them on the Internet as scientific literature.
The person who wrote the above clearly have no idea how things work! - "Open-comb razors are also considered to be more aggressive because the comb guard allows the blade to make closer contact with the skin when cutting."
Yes, agreed.
Anyone with a decent skill set should be able to use any razor and achieve the shave they desire even with men shaving a couple of times per week.
IMO this is good ‘introduction’ to a complex subject!
The B&B Wiki and threads provide more accurate and detailed information. Just my $0.02!
The B&B Wiki and threads provide more accurate and detailed information. Just my $0.02!
You are correct that the blade angle and the handle angle are not equivalent. However, the handle angle shown in the illustration is the "neutral" angle, that is the shaving angle in which you will neither be riding the cap or riding the guard, or you will be riding both with equal pressure in the case of a blade with negative exposure. If the head of the razor is designed properly with respect to the way the DE blade is held and curved, the neutral angle is the angle at which the razor was designed to be used. However, a specific individual may achieve better results with a shave angle slightly more or less than neutral. I have a tough beard and sensitive skin; if I ride the guard, I get more irritation than I do with either a neutral angle or riding the cap. But everyone is different.
