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mark the shoeshine boy
11-10-2005, 11:28 AM
Just a quick few notes here...

My package arrived yesterday and of course this will be the soap of the day...

This stuff is great....very slick...my lather making could use some work...use a drier brush and add the water...

The fragrance is very intense...very very nice....i will have to let one of the other guys tell you the notes on it...

the lather on the 2nd and 3rd passes were excellent....I got a very smooth shave with this soap...Sue has done a wonderful job here....

My Tony's aftershave leaked compleety out in the box, so i can not comment on this...but Sue has another one shipped already....it smells great too...

The cologne is very nice...

I am swamped at work today, buy I wanted to post something for some of you guys to read about.

I am very positive about these products. Her service was excellent, too.

You know for $25 bucks you get a very attractive bowl and soap...good size bottle of aftershave and a bottle of cologne....

nice christmas idea ???

Put a brush and Merkur HD and your have a great kit.

mark tssb

rtaylor61
11-10-2005, 12:28 PM
Mark,

Which soap?

Randy

AACJ
11-10-2005, 12:55 PM
Mark,

Which soap?

Randy

And did you use New Spice cologne (I want to know if all the girls at your office were fawning over you?

Cliff
11-10-2005, 01:38 PM
I received my order last night, I received the shaving soap, in a nice wooden bowl and New Spice Cologne. When I opened the shaving soap........whoa......the smell of almonds filled the room, so much that swmbo commented when she walked into the kitchen. I have never smelled such a powerful scent from any of my other soaps/creams and that's saying something. The soap appears to have a 'creamy-hard' texture to it. It's not a hard soap but when you drag your finger across the soap you leave a slight indentation. I can't wait to try it.
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mark the shoeshine boy
11-10-2005, 06:18 PM
it was new spice....the cologne was well received by the ladies, but i didn't put it on very heavy...i was afraid to be too overpowering and they couldn't resist themselves and the flow of work would stop....:blush:

tonight i am going to sit in a redneck bar with a pork chop and new spice on and see what the women go far !!! :w00t:

Look out girls...you ain't got a chance with the old bald headed fat boy from Southeast Missouri wearing this stuff.:001_tt1:

I am going to use it again tomorrow with a drier brush. I was really busy at work today and couldn't go into depth with my review...

What i need to say is that the lather was really great after the water dried a little bit...I make the same mistake with QED soaps. My shavemac XXL really holds the water...So when you get yours, you will have a heads up on it.....

Next, if you didn't catch this...but my aftershave leaked out dry while shipping....yes folks Tony Espo leaked in my package...don't spread that around...:glare: The garage smelled wonderful with the fragrance as the box sat out there...I can't wait to try it....

Sue immediatley replaced it and the new package is on its way. Thanks Sue. Nothing but positive things to say about the product and your service.

I talked about a christmas present or a starter kit for a newbie....you know with a Merkur HD, pack of blades, a Savile row brush, QED shave stick, Newspice in a bowl and Tony's aftershaveand 4oz cologne....for about 95 bucks plus shipping...

What a starter kit....

If you stick with the small items from Sue...11 bucks plus shipping...no bowl and just the 2 oz sizes...11 bucks....that's it....
SR 204 super badger brush...$40
Merkur HD....$28
Blades....$4.25
Shave stick....$7.50
$50 bucks....

Now there is a bargain for ya !!!!

Yo guys try it and see what you think...

mark the shoeshine boy

roughrider
11-10-2005, 06:33 PM
How is the quality of the wooden bowl? How would you compare it to other wooden bowls from C&E, T&H, etc.?

mark the shoeshine boy
11-10-2005, 06:39 PM
How is the quality of the wooden bowl? How would you compare it to other wooden bowls from C&E, T&H, etc.?

I can't answer that...the only wooden bowls that i have are older antique models and one made by my friend out of hedgeapple....

Maybe one of these others can answer when theres comes in...

mark tssb

Enrico
11-10-2005, 06:58 PM
I just received my order today, and am very impressed with the wooden bowl.
It is much better quality, and seems to be a little bigger than the CM bowl I already have.

Steve

roughrider
11-11-2005, 01:00 AM
Some of you boys who've gotten your soaps already need to do a review ASAP. I'm itchin' to pull the trigger.

Cliff
11-11-2005, 07:29 AM
I received my order last night, I received the shaving soap, in a nice wooden bowl and New Spice Cologne. When I opened the shaving soap........whoa......the smell of almonds filled the room, so much that swmbo commented when she walked into the kitchen. I have never smelled such a powerful scent from any of my other soaps/creams and that's saying something. The soap appears to have a 'creamy-hard' texture to it. It's not a hard soap but when you drag your finger across the soap you leave a slight indentation. I can't wait to try it.
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The above was my original post. Here's my review of my first usage, this morning. This is a soap brought to my attention by our own Tony Espo, who helped develop it by working in collaboration with Sue Moore the soaps' creator.

In the shavegeek community there are soap guys and there are cream guys. I'm going to state, up front, that I am a cream guy. I have tried several soaps and while I have gotten a good shave with them, I have not been able to get a great shave. The creams seem to work better for me and my technique (or lack thereof).

That said.........this is a great soap. As I've mentioned in my initial post above; the fragrance is intoxicating, I've never sniffed a scent so brilliant. In fact, I found myself cupping my hands over the open container and breathing deeply, trying to get an Almond high. But I digress, this soap worked extremely well, lathered beautifully and shaved well - all in all a fine addition to anybody's collection. I think this is a soap that people will find to be a "go-to" item. Try it i think you'll like it.

I'm still a cream guy......but, I WILL be adding this soap into my rotation. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it !
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I had to ammend this review to mention a small negative that should be corrected. As I was using the soap, adding a little more to the brush mix I noticed some black "grunge" on my marble countertop. I wiped it up thinking nothing of it and it happened again, I wondered "where is this crap coming from"....the light bulb went on and I looked at the bottom of the wooden soap bowl. There it was, half of the lettering on the silver label was gone and the remaining lettering was "smooshed" (I love these technical terms). I moistened a paper towel and removed the remaining ink - end of problem. This can be remedied by using a water resistant ink.

mark the shoeshine boy
11-11-2005, 09:47 AM
It's my morning off and of course it my time to pamper myself....longer shower...and a slow relaxing shave...for those of you who are new to wetshaving...this dreadful chore of scraping my stubbly masculinity off my face daily has turned into a new relaxing and stimulating rewarding experience...

How can you have all of this in "a shave"? Great products is the key.

You buy a great brush that if you don't use for at least two to three minutes for each pass, you are missing out of the luxury of your brush. Plus the soap has time to moisturize your beard for the next pass. When find a soap or cream that works so well for you, you look forward to using it time after time again. There are so many good one on the market.

After you master the technique of holding the razor at the right angle for every pass. Whiskers are shaven like never before and the results are great. Can these results be duplicated day after day ? Sure they can, if you just take the time and concentrate on your technique.

Having said all this for the new guys sakes. Once again Sue's New Spice lathered really well this morning after my poor technique for yesterday's first pass. The fragrance is very intense and intoxicating. For me it is totally different from the usually lavender or rose, one usually gets.

The soap is very slick and my Merkur HD with a 4 day old Merkur blade slid across my skin like a glass windshield on a snow bank. During each pass, no matter what direction, I did not encounter any lubrication problem.

After all said and done, cold rinse, Trumpers skin food, I had a very, very smooth face....

This soap is right up there (in my opinion) with QED, Trumpers, Tabac, and Proraso. These are my only hard soaps that I have to compare. In fact, to me this lubrication is as good as QED, which of course is MY favorite soap.

Now compared to the creams, I can only say that it may not lather as good as a cream, but what I get I am very pleased with what I get and the bottom line is: I get a great shave with this soap. So what if my technique with a soap is not as good as a cream, big deal...believe me I have read and reread the tutorial on how to do it to !!!

So now I have to look at my QED Lime, Violetta, Rose, Lavender and Sandlewood tubs and wonder where I am going to put New Spice in !!!!

While I was shaving this morning the Today Show came on and said "where in the world is Matt Lauer ?"....WHO CARES...I'M SHAVING !!!

For your newbies you want to learn more about how to turn your old shaving chore into a positive experience, stick around and keep reading...

Visit me down at the Barbershop Section of the forum and chat with me...I'll help ya !!!

Best Regards to all of you,

Mark ths shoeshine boy

Austin
11-11-2005, 10:21 AM
Mark, have you tried the aftershave? If so, can you give us a review.

BTW Great review.

xChris
11-11-2005, 12:20 PM
Newb here... :blush:

Who is Sue? What is the company for this stuff, and does she (they) have a website?

Thanks.

roughrider
11-11-2005, 12:25 PM
Newb here... :blush:

Who is Sue? What is the company for this stuff, and does she (they) have a website?

Thanks.


http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=743

http://www.saintcharlesshave.com/

mark the shoeshine boy
11-11-2005, 06:33 PM
Mark, have you tried the aftershave? If so, can you give us a review.

BTW Great review.

My aftershave completley leaked out during shipping. Sue has another one on the way. the heavily soaked box layed in my garage--best smelling garage on the block !!!

As soon as I get it, I will be glad to review it....

Has any one else try it yet ???

mark tssb

tonyespo
11-11-2005, 07:53 PM
Yes I tried it:cool: Mark, I'm sorry to hear that your garbage is wearing my name sake aftershave. When you get the replacement use a small amount to start. It stings at first touch and then it starts cooling and cooling and cooling. I love it:001_tt1:

Tony Espo

roughrider
11-11-2005, 08:04 PM
Yes I tried it:cool: Mark, I'm sorry to hear that your garbage is wearing my name sake aftershave. When you get the replacement use a small amount to start. It stings at first touch and then it starts cooling and cooling and cooling. I love it:001_tt1:

Tony Espo


Hey Tony, are you talking about the Regular or Sensitive Skin version? Have you tried them both? What's the big difference?

mark the shoeshine boy
11-11-2005, 08:13 PM
Yes I tried it:cool: Mark, I'm sorry to hear that your garbage is wearing my name sake aftershave. When you get the replacement use a small amount to start. It stings at first touch and then it starts cooling and cooling and cooling. I love it:001_tt1:

Tony Espo

Tony,

I'm telling the members that you leaked on my front steps and then in the garage...:glare:

:001_tt2:

mark tssb

tonyespo
11-12-2005, 12:09 AM
Hey Tony, are you talking about the Regular or Sensitive Skin version? Have you tried them both? What's the big difference?

The regular aftershave. Come to think of it Sue sent me some of the sensitive aftershave to test and I did, but because I don't have sensitive skin I never really saw any difference. I told Sue that I was going to give myself a case of razor burn on purpose to try out the sensitive formula and I forgot to do it and she forgot to remind me. Sorry I can't tell you how the sensitive blend is different because I have never had the razor burn and I don't have normally sensitive skin.

Tony Espo

Clark
11-12-2005, 06:55 AM
Does anyone not what the ingredients of the soap. Are they like the qed soaps not allot of synthetics loaded up within them.

roughrider
11-12-2005, 11:10 AM
Does anyone not what the ingredients of the soap. Are they like the qed soaps not allot of synthetics loaded up within them.


I think Sue talked about the ingredients at the shavemyface forum.

xChris
11-12-2005, 01:42 PM
RR,

Thanks for the hyperlinks to Sue, her website, & Tony's post about them.

roughrider
11-12-2005, 02:24 PM
RR,

Thanks for the hyperlinks to Sue, her website, & Tony's post about them.


No problem. :smile:

Clark
11-19-2005, 03:10 PM
Did the price just go up on Sues site or am I seeing things. Also, I still have not been able to get any information on ingredients of her soap. I have sent sent e-mails but still nothing. I think all vendors must supply this information so folks know what is in them.

roughrider
11-19-2005, 03:42 PM
Did the price just go up on Sues site or am I seeing things. Also, I still have not been able to get any information on ingredients of her soap. I have sent sent e-mails but still nothing. I think all vendors must supply this information so folks know what is in them.


The prices did go up. It might be bad because with the previous lower prices, I figure people would buy more.

guenron
11-19-2005, 04:06 PM
The prices did go up. It might be bad because with the previous lower prices, I figure people would buy more.
Success ruins another startup...

Rik
11-19-2005, 05:46 PM
Boy am I glad I got my last order in before the price hike! :scared: I'm guessing she didn't count on some of us ordering her entire lineup. There's no way I would have ordered the variety I did at her current prices. Hopefully she'll offer samples for future potential customers.

guenron
11-19-2005, 05:52 PM
Boy am I glad I got my last order in before the price hike! :scared: I'm guessing she didn't count on some of us ordering her entire lineup. There's no way I would have ordered the variety I did at her current prices. Hopefully she'll offer samples for future potential customers.
I will merely bypass the pleasure. Too many first-rate fish in the ocean to go after feeders.

Clark
11-19-2005, 07:49 PM
I hope nobody takes the wrong way, but the way look at this is that the site was opended to lore people in and then she hiked the prices. Something does not smell right to me. She has lost my business ! Poor business decesion!

mike
11-19-2005, 08:21 PM
I was going to order a few soaps for my friends, but I think I will pass for now. I think I will go with T&H instead.

rtaylor61
11-19-2005, 10:36 PM
Maybe my memory "ain't what it used to be", but if I recall, Sue explained on the site that she was offering "introductory" prices. I'm a bit confused as to what all of the fuss is about.

Randy

Nick
11-19-2005, 10:55 PM
Randy, you are correct. All of the prices were advertised as introductory... It wasn't blatant or overly obvious, but it was there.

However, for the price it's at now, I likely won't be buying anymore either (maybe some more of the AS, but I need a few more shaves under my belt to determine that).

rtaylor61
11-19-2005, 11:09 PM
Nick,

I can understand where you are coming from. Of the two soaps I purchased, Citrus Pie and Soft Bergamot, I don't care for the Bergamot. I'll give it to my son to try. Although Sue would probably take it back, I ordered it to try. I don't care for it, but that is not her problem. I do wish I had purchased more before she raised the prices, and wish the "introductory" period had been longer, but I pay either $2.89 or $2.00 for a gallon of milk at the store I shop at. I never ask them why the price went up...it's either on sale or not! Will I buy more from Sue? Absolutely. We all got a bargain on our initial purchases at the introductory prices, but now that Sue is asking prices that will allow her to continue offering her product, we turn our backs? I still feel that I will get my money's worth, even at the regular price. Take a look at the prices at Shavemac on their brushes. I love my Shavemac brushes...but THAT is a price increase!

Randy

Nick
11-20-2005, 12:01 AM
Randy,

That's very true, but regardless of the product, there's a price level where many consumers reevaluate whether the product is worth the asking price. After examining all the products more closely, I had to revise my initial opinion. The AS I still feel is a winning product. It seems to leave a little more oil on my face than others (something I didn't notice at first).

We all contribute our own little dot on the old demand curve, my dot's just a little lower on the Y axis than yours. :smile:

-Nick

Edit: Let me reiterate, I definitely saw the "introductory price" notice, and Sue has every right to increase her price as she sees fit, and if retailers didn't make a profit, we'd have nowhere to purchase all these fine shaving goods.

rtaylor61
11-20-2005, 12:38 AM
Nick,

I would never disagree with you. I do, in fact, agree with you. We all have our own opinion on where price = value. What bothers me about this is that when everything was "cheap", lot's of folks were ordering. But when an individual, who has said "these are introductory prices" (not an exact quote) tries to make a bit of profit, suddenly there are a lot of folks calling "foul!". I'm seeing the reaction here and at SMF. Pardon me for saying so, but what a bunch of cheap bastards! Whether it is Sue, T&H or Taylor's, businesses have to make a profit to stay in business. Sue let us know in advance that prices would change by stating that they were introductory. And now that the prices are no longer "cheap", everyone is jumping on the bandwagon to complain. Personally, I like one of the two soaps I ordered. I like the A/S balm and the cologne. I rolled the dice, and in this case, 3 out of 4 ain't bad. I guess what pisses me off is that here we have a case of the "little guy" offering a really good product, and even with the price increase, still a good deal, that is essentially suddenly being boycotted by many because she needs to make a profit. This is Econ 101. Big companies can take big losses because they have plenty of money. It's just not the same for individuals who have spent time and effort trying to offer us something that is not available anywhere else.

Randy

Nick
11-20-2005, 12:42 AM
Randy,

Well said. I think it also bears repeating that Saint Charles has an absolutely unbeatable satisfaction guarantee, and that alone speaks to the character of Sue, and the kind of establishment she appears to be running.

-Nick

tonyespo
11-20-2005, 01:00 AM
Gents, I can comment about the price increase. If you read SMF you may have already seen this post.

I can comment about the HIKED prices. Sue's first prices where INTRODUCTORY prices and it said that on the website. She mailed out a lot of bowls of soap and made very little money. As her tester I in fact told her that her prices were TOO LOW. Sue listened to me about everything I told her in making the soap, but she went on her own with the pricing. Sue hardly broke even on her first run of orders. When new stores open, don't they run specials and grand opening prices? That is what Sue did. If you didn't take advantage of the prices you missed out. Most of the gents that did take advantage of her introductory prices are very satisfied with Sue's products. Most of the reviews if you read them give her soap high marks. Let me explain how the NEW prices came about. Sue asked me to tell her how much to charge. She couldn't make a profit with the introductory pricing. She was working for free. What I did was I went online and I checked the prices of what other high quality soaps, aftershaves, and colognes were. I checked how much soaps in wooden bowls were costing from other companies. Sue's prices are a good bit lower than the others. Her quality is just as good or better than the others. Yes, Sue is a small fish. She doesn't have millions to advertise her goods and build media hype. All she can do is provide a top quality products and hope that word of mouth advertising like on the forums gets her some business. She will never get rich with the prices she is charging and the amount of soap she is selling. My hopes for her is that some big fish soap maker will take notice and ask Sue if they can carry her line of products.

I know this must sound like some big brother sticking up for his kid sister or something, but I am just telling you who made the current prices and why.

Profit is not a dirty word.

Tony Espo

Nick
11-20-2005, 01:15 AM
Tony,

I don't think this price increase is anyone's fault (so much as it was simply a business necessity), and upon further reflection, I think Randy sums it up pretty good.

I think if Sue had offered this as a %XX off sale that ended on YY date, people wouldn't see it as such an affront. I'm not by any means saying Sue should've done this, just thinking it might put things a little more into perspective.

-Nick

tonyespo
11-20-2005, 01:40 AM
I totally agree with you Nick. I should have thought of it. When Sue came to me and asked about raising the prices because she couldn't make any money at the old prices I should have told her she needed to first give an end of sale date. Sue is a soap maker, not a business person. I am a business person and I just didn't think of it at the time. Giving everyone a closing date on the introductory prices would had been the right thing to do. I take the blame for that not happening. One more thing I would like to add. Copied from my post on SMF.

I forgot to mention this in my previous post. I PAY FOR MY PRODUCTS.

Once the testing ended and Sue's business started, I started paying for my products. I don't get any discount. I pay full sticker. I pay what you pay. When the small price increase happened it cost me more money too.

Tony Espo

rtaylor61
11-20-2005, 01:43 AM
Nick,

What you have said says volumes. I totally agree!

Randy

mike
11-20-2005, 06:16 AM
I was going to order a few soaps for my friends, but I think I will pass for now. I think I will go with T&H instead.

I too believe that Sue has a right to make a profit and that the initial prices were clearly marked as introductory. My decision to go in a different direction is based upon my perception of value. I still buy Col. Conk soaps because I can get them for $3.00 a cake. They shave well and therefore constitute a great value. I can get T&H soap at Ashford for $6.00 a cake. To me, this represents a better value when all factors are taken into consideration.

DoubleE
11-20-2005, 07:34 AM
When I saw Sue's original prices, I thought it was pretty obvious that profit was going to be marginal if not non-existant. A soap and a nice wooden bowl for $8.00! Most soap refills cost more that this. I would have ordered a couple of soaps during the introductory period except she ran out of bowls. By the time bowls were back in stock, the price was up.

Like Nick mentioned, I wish there had been a %off and a cut-off date but it's probably still a fair price for what she's providing, at least in my opinion. I'm not in such a hurry to order now but will likely give them a try sometime.

Jerry

Edit:
Of course, it's my own fault I didn't get them for the introductory price since I waited to read a few reviews instead of being one of the reviewers! Once the reviews started coming in and I went to order, the bowls were out of stock.

He who hesitates......

Rik
11-20-2005, 12:18 PM
I agree that Sue's products are a great value. I find the fragrances to be refreshing and the resulting shave to be on par or better than her competition. Having tried a variety of her shaving soaps, I will most definitely be a repeat customer.

Randy, I'm very fond of the Bergamot scent. PM me if you're interested in making a deal.

Sue, If you're reading this post, thank you for taking the time and effort to create an exceptional product. I have to believe this is a difficult industry to compete in. I look forward to your future fragrances!

joel
11-20-2005, 10:15 PM
I am having very mixed feelings towards these products..... review to come tomorrow.

roughrider
11-21-2005, 08:25 PM
Mine should be here any day now.

HlSheppard
12-08-2005, 06:47 PM
Well folks -

Here's my $.02 on these products:

I received the goodie box yesterday and got to actually use everything this morning.

I lathered up with my trusty SMF brush that had been soaking in hot water. The soap is fairly soft compared to Tabac, but about on par (hardness-wise) with Ray's soaps @ Classic Shaving. For me that's where the similarity ended.
I know there are folks that have forgotten more about shave soaps than I know. However, I've tried my share and, as with most things, a few always seem to rise above the rest. This soap is destined to be one of those (at least in my rotation).

The soap (I went for the almond) was EXCELLENT. For me it was very moisturizing and provided as good a shave as I've had from ANY soap (including Charles' and Tabac - my two "staples". I am seriously impressed! Very lubricating and it did not dry out quickly for me at all. I applied hot water to my face between each pass - but I always do this. Once the proper lather/water mix was acheived; the lather got that glossy look to it (like wet paint, still in the can). I get the same lather from Tabac as well.

I'm not used to referring to myself as a "soap guy." However, I have to tell you: with the three aforementioned products - I'm seriously waivering...

I also tried the "New Spice" cologne. I think it's a great value. Scent is, of course, subjective. I did get my wife complimenting me on it immediately (and she's not a fan of most of my sandalwood scents - although she's tolerant :glare: ). My 3 1/2 year old son liked it and wanted to try some. I have him a little shot and he was happy as a clam, too!

I'm not really sure if the scent is for me. Maybe I should clarify by saying that it's not something that I normally would choose. However - I have to say that on me it had AWESOME staying power and I did get a few compliments on it. So what do I know? It seemed somewhat sweet with possible notes of chocolate? But it also seemed to lose some of that sweetness after the dry-down.

The atomizer top seems to dispense quite a bit of the scent - maybe that's why it "hung around" (my over application) - but that's easily adapted to.

Overall - I'm seriously impressed and very happy with the value that I've received from St. Charles' products thus far. Good job Sue!

Clark
12-10-2005, 06:12 AM
Has Sue listed the ingredients yet? I asked this question a few weeks ago and and still no response?

Austin
12-10-2005, 06:28 AM
Clark, on SMF Sue has stated that she will not list the ingrediants. If it concerns you, then I would pass on her products.

joel
12-10-2005, 01:24 PM
FWIW - I made good on my word (of buying the shave soap in Almond)... and decided to give the new spice scent one more go, as there "might" have been something wrong with it. Alas - here was my order...

1 Filled Wood Bowl
Item #Almond $11.95 USD
1 4 Ounces Fine Mist Spray Cologne
Item #New Spice $7.95 USD
1 4 Ounce Body Lotion
Item #New Spice $8.79 USD
1 Tony's Choice Aftershave, 4 Ounces
Item #Regular Formula $6.95 USD
1 New Spice Shower Gel
Item #6 Ounce Bottle $4.89 USD
Amount $40.53 USD

Clark
12-10-2005, 03:53 PM
Clark, on SMF Sue has stated that she will not list the ingrediants. If it concerns you, then I would pass on her products.


I will pass on the soap. It should not be that big of a deal and in my opinion should be mandatory for any reputable vendor, just my opinion.

lathermaker
12-10-2005, 04:22 PM
Clark,

I, too, requested an ingredients list and was basically told that Sue couldn't be "bullied" into presenting them. I beg to differ, but it is the law for a manufacturer to disclose a full listing of ingredients. I am with you and will forgo purchasing from her. I find it very shady that a manufacturer/business doesn't comply with the law. She should know what is required of her before she sells to the public. Just my not so humble opinion.

Ok, off the soapbox.

Lathermaker

gage0921
12-10-2005, 04:53 PM
This reminds me of another thread that was started on another site by quite possibly the same individual and the thread turned sour and hatefull. She has made her intentions clear so move on and lets stop here. Sue is a respected member here and should be treated as such and not bad mouthed for her decesion to keep her ingredients a secret. [B]LETS MOVE ONE[B]:biggrin:

roughrider
12-10-2005, 08:09 PM
Guys, she's not selling heart medication, just shaving products. :biggrin:

atnight
12-16-2005, 08:18 PM
I hadn't read this thread and just emailed her to find out if her soaps were tallow based or vegetable based. I've been a vegetarian (15 years) and generally try to avoid the animal stuff where practical. I would hope I'd get a response and am eager to try the soaps if they are indeed vegetable based. I don't care about every single ingredient- just those. We'll see if I hear anything.

atnight
12-16-2005, 10:30 PM
Sue wrote me a friendly reply. Her soaps are vegetable based. Happy times! I'm thinking Almond and maybe Citrus Pie.

Dick Danger
12-16-2005, 10:37 PM
One of these days I might have to read a label.

Austin
12-16-2005, 11:04 PM
Sue wrote me a friendly reply. Her soaps are vegetable based. Happy times! I'm thinking Almond and maybe Citrus Pie.

Try the almond and sandalwood.

JohnP
12-31-2005, 01:20 AM
Just tried the almond for the first time.
Yep.
Its good.

The almond is different from the other almond soaps/creams I've tried. This smells like it should be drank from a shot, dropped into a beer. Thats right, she has captured the exact scent of Amaretto. You could have this soap next to an open bottle of DiSaronno and not tell the difference.
It lathers well, and fast; I had no issues with it although I understand some may react to the fragrance (?)
I also tried the New Spice. I've only just spritzed it on; its not my normal fare, but it does smell vaguely familiar; that said, it passes the Lena test. I'll be wearing my "girly bait" scent tomorrow.
John P.