SPF is a must!!!

[jat9096]

Just wanted to throw a reminder out to all you b&b members about how important it is to wear suncreen. I hope everyone here is wearing sunblock least when they go out into the sun (day at the beach, yard work, etc). It would be ideal for you guys to have a facial moisturizer with a SPF of at least 15 and wear it daily. Not only does it help prevent skin cancers and premalignant lesions, but it also prevents premature aging and appearance of wrinkles. Skin cancers (BCC, SCC) are the most common cancers in US and they (melanoma) can KILL you. Dont forget to visit your dermatologist regularly for any blemish or mole that looks suspicious and dont forget about applying it to your kids!!!

here is a link from the CDC on skin cancer

http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/skin/

[Walravine]

It would be ideal for you guys to have a facial moisturizer with a SPF15 and wear it daily.

Do you have any suggestions of sunscreen face balm? Ideally, it would contain mexoryl. I hate the feel of regular sunscreen.

[Another Platonist]

I use Purpose by Johnson and Johnson daily on my face and neck. It does not have a residue or greasy feel. The dermatologists I work with recommend it, and it is inexpensive.

[rafikz]

Reminds me of that episode of South Park :

"This is Robert Pooner reporting live from Nebraska, where escaped convict Charlie Manson has walled himself up in a house. [the camera zooms in on Grandma's house] We understand that there are hostages, and that the situation is critical, [zoom out], so we would like to remind you all that this live hostage crisis is being brought to you by Palmoral Sun Block [SPF 200]. Remember, if it isn't Palmoral, you're gonna get cancer."

:lol::lol:

[jat9096]

I never saw that southapark, gonna youtube it.

There are tons of moisturizers out there. i personally like the neutrogena age fighter for men or their antioxidant line. most large brands are making non-oily facial moisturizers these days. if you hit your local cvs/rite aid/walgreen you'll see a whole aisle of the stuff and a special section for men. I work with a group of dermatologists and they dont really recommend one brand. they just want you to find something with spf in it and apply it daily. i threw it into my whole shaving routine so that i wouldnt forget.

[Conscientia]

Do you think it is acceptable to just mix in a regular store bought SPF cream with your usual moisturiser, or are the moisturisers with SPF specfically created so that none of the ingredients would prevent the SPF from working to it's full extent - in other words, will the moisturiser interfere with the SPF? I know it's probably a no brainer question, but I guess I'd just like to here from someone who knows? I'm just thinking some ingredients may interfere with one another?

[rafikz]

As I have dry skin and live in very cold climate, I like to use regular Coppertone as facial moisturizer (not oil-free, it has Jojoba oil).

The funny thing is that I started using it on my face for its moisturizing properties, not for the SPF :w00t:

So I guess hte SPF 15 is an added bonus :biggrin:

[jat9096]

Do you think it is acceptable to just mix in a regular store bought SPF cream with your usual moisturiser, or are the moisturisers with SPF specfically created so that none of the ingredients would prevent the SPF from working to it's full extent - in other words, will the moisturiser interfere with the SPF? I know it's probably a no brainer question, but I guess I'd just like to here from someone who knows? I'm just thinking some ingredients may interfere with one another?

the active ingredients do not interfere with each other, but you do dilute the sunscreen with the other cream. so you dont get the full spf depending on how much cream you mix in. so you could mix a spf 30-45 with a cream and still get enough protection even if it was diluted.

[Robby]

I read a study that stated that the decrease in vitamin D production by blocking UV rays from the skin was found to be a contributing cause of colon cancer. Unfortunately, the vitamin D found in milk was not found to be effective, only naturally produced vitamin D sufficed.

So the way I see it, you can either get skin cancer by not wearing sunscreen or colon cancer by not producing vitamin D.

What's your complexion worth? :tongue_sm

[jat9096]

I read a study that stated that the decrease in vitamin D production by blocking UV rays from the skin was found to be a contributing cause of colon cancer. Unfortunately, the vitamin D found in milk was not found to be effective, only naturally produced vitamin D sufficed.

So the way I see it, you can either get skin cancer by not wearing sunscreen or colon cancer by not producing vitamin D.

What's your complexion worth? :tongue_sm

i would love to read that study. do you know the name, author, or medical journal it was published in??? IF the lack of vitamin d does contribute to colon cancer it is a tiny tiny risk factor. this is probably one of the few articles on the matter which makes it pretty worthless and by no means the standard protocol to preventing colon cancer. it is a KNOWN fact (100's of articles in well respected journals have been published on the matter) that UV rays are a MAJOR cause of skin cancer and premalignant lesions. another 100 or so articles have been published stating that sunscreen lower the risk of skin cancers dramatically.

it has been well published that high fat/low fiber, smoking, have a stronger correlation with colon cancer than other risks.

on a side surgical note, colon cancer that has metastasized has a better prognosis than melanoma that has metastasized.

BUT hey, you can roll the dice. i'm wearing sunscreen.

[Walravine]

Not to hijack the thread, but what's the latest information regarding the melanoma vaccine that was being tested? Forbes magazine mentioned that the results didn't look promising.

[greenerock]

You know how much people like "Kiss My Face" shave cream. The "Kiss My Face" Face Factor sunscreen SPF 30 is wonderful. It's so smooth and has a matte finish. Great stuff:001_smile

[krawlx]

I'm a sun lover, and played baseball throughout my life including university. I never wore SPF. I know I should wear sunscreen, but I don't.

[denissawyer]

Also its especially important for the members of this board who shave their heads, I know headblade makes head wipes that work really well its worth investigating if youve never heard of that product.

[Robby]

i would love to read that study. do you know the name, author, or medical journal it was published in??? IF the lack of vitamin d does contribute to colon cancer it is a tiny tiny risk factor. this is probably one of the few articles on the matter which makes it pretty worthless and by no means the standard protocol to preventing colon cancer. it is a KNOWN fact (100's of articles in well respected journals have been published on the matter) that UV rays are a MAJOR cause of skin cancer and premalignant lesions. another 100 or so articles have been published stating that sunscreen lower the risk of skin cancers dramatically.

it has been well published that high fat/low fiber, smoking, have a stronger correlation with colon cancer than other risks.

on a side surgical note, colon cancer that has metastasized has a better prognosis than melanoma that has metastasized.

BUT hey, you can roll the dice. i'm wearing sunscreen.

Science (296: 1313-1316)
Journal of the American Medical Association (Vol. 290, No. 22: 2959-2967)

Fortunately I misread the original article and it appears that 500 to 1,000 IU of vitamin D in a daily supplement does cut this risk by as much as 50%; you can continue to wear your sunscreen after all.

[jat9096]

hey thanks, will check out the articles

[jat9096]

Not to hijack the thread, but what's the latest information regarding the melanoma vaccine that was being tested? Forbes magazine mentioned that the results didn't look promising.

here is the link to phase 1 clinical study. it was published jan 25, 2008. its conclusion was that it was well tolerated and may indice specific immunity agaisnt melanoma.

http://www.translational-medicine.com/content/6/1/6

[Walravine]

here is the link to phase 1 clinical study. it was published jan 25, 2008. its conclusion was that it was well tolerated and may indice specific immunity agaisnt melanoma.

http://www.translational-medicine.com/content/6/1/6


Thanks. Very interesting. "With a mean follow-up of 49.5 months post-surgery, one stage IIC patient and 7/8 stage III patients remain NED but 7/7 stage IV patients have progressed." I guess the message here is to catch it early.

[SalvadorMontenegro]

I hate moisturizers. I wish they would put some SPF 15 in an aftershave or in Thayer's.

I worry about lack of sun protection, but, as I said, I hate moisturizers.

[Jim]

Jat
A great post and a good reminder to take care of our largest organ.

I had used the Purpose product for a few years on my dermatologist's recommendation with good results, recently I switched to this-
http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580/1d/pics.Drugstore.com/prodimg/163845/300.jpg

Its available in various SPF ratings, I was in the tropics recently for 8 days and faithfully used this with fantastic results.
I am fair skinned and with this product got zero sunburn even snorkeling 3-4 hours a day. Its on sale now at Drugstore.com.

[tim]

Cosmetic Database studied 912 name-brand sunscreens (http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/special/sunscreens/summary.php) and found many rated with high SPF values weren't very effective (83% were found to offer inadequate protection from the sun). I was stunned to see how good they considered some products to be at blocking harmful rays in relation to their overall risk.

[jat9096]

Cosmetic Database studied 912 name-brand sunscreens (http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/special/sunscreens/summary.php) and found many rated with high SPF values weren't very effective (83% were found to offer inadequate protection from the sun). I was stunned to see how good they considered some products to be at blocking harmful rays in relation to their overall risk.


yeah, thats why it is very important to put them on properly to get the most protction possible.

1) apply 30 minutes BEFORE getting wet or sweating.
2) reapply after swimming or drying off

and remember clothing only offer a protection of about spf 4